- From: Fabian Ritzmann <Fabian.Ritzmann@Sun.COM>
- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:13:39 +0200
- To: Christopher B Ferris <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>
- Cc: public-ws-policy@w3.org
Hi, I'll only be able to attend in the mornings. I'd appreciate if "my" issues could be discussed before noon. I noticed these in particular: e) Support for operations with the same name, Fabian http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0065.html ACTION-175 Open an issue related to operations with the same name. Fabian Ritzmann DONE. ACTION-187 OPEN O to send an email with clear set of alternatives for issue 4127 David Orchard 2007-01-17 Status: Done http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0092.html p) [NEW ISSUE]: Policy assertion semantics independent of attachment mechanism http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4198 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4198> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0083.html Fabian Christopher B Ferris wrote: > > Agenda: WS-Policy WG F2F 24 - 2007-01-16 to 2007-01-18 > > The WS-Policy WG will meet F2F in San Francisco, CA from Jan 16-18, 2007. > http://www.w3.org/2007/01/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html > > The phone number to use for the WS-Policy WG F2F is documented on the > WG's administrative home page: > http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#phone > > Participants are invited to join IRC channel #ws-policy as documented > on the WG's administrative home page. Please register with Zakim: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html > > Tuesday Jan 16 > > 1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair (9:00 am PST) > > a) Scribe List: > > Toufic Boubez (Tue AM F2F) > Frederick Hirsch (Tue PM F2F) > Felix Sasaki (Wed AM F2F) > Prasad Yendluri (Wed PM F2F) > Dimitar Angelov > Sanjiva Weerawarana > Ruchith Fernando > Jeffrey Crump > Tom Jordahl > Vladislav Bezrukov > ---------------------- > Jeff Mischkinsky > Abbie Barbir > Anthony Nadalin > Ashok Malhotra > Daniel Roth > Sergey Beryozkin > Charlton Barreto > Sanka Samaranayake > Fabian Ritzmann > David Orchard > Yakov Sverdlov > Ümit Yalçinalp > Asir Vedamuthu > Maryann Hondo > Dale Moberg > Chris Ferris > Mark Little > Monica Martin > Glen Daniels > William Henry > > b) Scribe FAQ (Updated) > Member only: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html > > 2. Review and approval of last week's telcon minutes, Chair (9:05 am PST) > > a) Review and approval of 2007-01-10 minutes, Chair > Draft minutes (member only): > http://www.w3.org/2007/01/10-ws-policy-minutes.html > > 3. Future WG meetings, Chair (9:10 am PST) > > a) Next distributed meeting is Wed Jan 31 - Chair is TBD. > > b) Future meetings > http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#meetings > > c) Mar F2F meeting hosting offer from WebMethods > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Jan/0000.html > > d) Future meeting schedule including F2F meetings after Mar 2007 meeting > > e) Dinner/Social, DaveO > > 4. Editorial team report (9:20 am PST) > Current Editors drafts: > http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/#drafts > > a) Update WS-Policy Editor's drafts, Editors > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0052.html > > b) ACTION-172 Produce a proposal for resolving issue 4041 by January > 10 Editors > DONE. See: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0070.html > > 5. Review action items, Chair (9:30 am PST) > Open action items: > Member only: > http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/open > > ACTION-172 Produce a proposal for resolving issue 4041 by January 10 > Editors > DONE. See: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0070.html > > ACTION-173 Add the change proposal to Issue 4045 Christopher Ferris > Status: pending, due 1/5/07 > > ACTION-174 See what XPointer are in line with WSDL and syntax David > Orchard > Status: Done > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0095.html > > ACTION-179 OPEN And Ashok to come up with complete wording/proposal > for EPR-related LC issue regarding policy attachment. Glen Daniels > 2007-01-10 > > ACTION-181 OPEN And Maryann to come up with a new version of the > wording for the last sentence of sec 4.3.2, as an amended proposal for > 4142 Umit Yalcinalp 2007-01-10 > > ACTION-182 OPEN File a new issue against primer/guidelines suggesting > the need for examples of intersection with/without empty wsp:Policy > (see issue 4142) Umit Yalcinalp 2007-01-10 > > ACTION-183 OPEN Research ownership of "Contoso" name/trademark. Asir > Vedamuthu 2007-01-10 > > ACTION-185 OPEN Look into hosting March F2F Abbie Barbir 2007-01-17 > > ACTION-186 OPEN to send response to XML Core WG regarding review of > C14N draft Paul Cotton 2007-01-17 > > ACTION-187 OPEN O to send an email with clear set of alternatives for > issue 4127 David Orchard 2007-01-17 > Status: Done > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0092.html > > ACTION-188 OPEN Create a bug to change in,out ->input, output in > fragment syntax David Orchard 2007-01-17 > > 6. Liaison items (9:45 am PST) > None. > > 7. Last Call reviews from other WGs (9:45 am PST) > > a) C14N 1.1 Last Call review announcement, XML Core WG > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2006OctDec/0109.html > > Paul's previous review from Oct 2006: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Oct/0142 > Status: Paul is trying to determine if the Last Call documents have > changed from the WDs he reviewed in Oct. > > ACTION-186 OPEN to send response to XML Core WG regarding review of > C14N draft Paul Cotton 2007-01-17 > > b) [NEW ISSUE] 4210 WSDL WG Editorial comments on Framework > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0098.html > > c) [NEW ISSUE] 4211 WSDL WG Editorial comments on Attachment > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0099.html > > 8. Framework and Attachments Last Call issues, Part I (9:50 am PST) > > a) NEW ISSUE 4138: Normalization Algorithm is broken, Umit > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0011.html > Status: members need time to consider this > > b) NEW ISSUE 4141: Policy parameter definition is not accurate, Umit > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0013.html > Status: Umit and Dan have action-180 > > ACTION-180 OPEN And Dan to discuss resolution of 4141 and come back > with an amended proposal for 2007-01-10. Umit Yalcinalp 2007-01-10 > DONE. See: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0025.html > > c) NEW ISSUE 4142: Contradictory recommendation for nesting and > intersection, Umit > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0014.html > Status: Umit and Maryann have action-181 > > ACTION-181 OPEN And Maryann to come up with a new version of the > wording for the last sentence of sec 4.3.2, as an amended proposal for > 4142 Umit Yalcinalp 2007-01-10 > > d) WS-RX review (informal), Ashok > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0077.html > > 9. Break (10:30 am PST) > > 10. Framework and Attachments Last Call issues, Part II (10:50 am PST) > > a) [NEW ISSUE] 4150 Duplicate text exists in Section 3 and 3.2, > PolicyAttachment, Monica > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0027.html > > b) WS-Addressing comments relating to WS-Policy LC > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0037.html > > d) [NEW ISSUE] 4177 Disambiguate notational convention for choice > syntax, Fabian > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0056.html > > e) [NEW ISSUE]: LC Comments from SAWSDL WG > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0064.html > > f) NEW Issue: How to ignore some "ignorable" assertions only?, Prasad > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0072.html > > 11. Lunch (12:30 pm PST) > > 12. Framework and Attachements Last call issues, Part III (1:30 pm PST) > > a) [NEW ISSUE]: Clarify namespace restrictions > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4196 > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4196> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0078.html > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0096.html > > b) Inconsistency on treatment of unknown extensibility elements > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4197 > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4197> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0079.html > > c) WS-RX review (informal), Ashok > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0077.html > > d) [NEW ISSUE]: 4203 Introduction misleading (Framework) > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0085.html > > e) [NEW ISSUE]: 4204 misleading text in sect 2.3 (Framework) > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0087.html > > f) [NEW ISSUE]: 4205 editorial nits WS-Policy 1.5 - Framework > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0088.html > > g) [NEW ISSUE]: 4206 Clarify treatment of policy assertion parameters > in compatibility determination > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0089.html > > h) [NEW ISSUE]: 4207 misleading text in sect 2.2 (Attachments) > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0090.html > > i) [NEW Issue 4209] Example 3.1 does not follow the algorithm in > merging policies > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0097.html > > j) [NEW ISSUE] 4224 Section 4, last paragraph content is too > restrictive - policy element information items are processed in > multiple contexts > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0121.html > > k) [NEW ISSUE] 4225 (was RE: Editorial issues in the Framework spec > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0125.html > > l) [NEW ISSUE] 4226 (was RE: Editorial issues in the Attachment spec > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0124.html > > 13. Candidate Recommendation schedule and exit criteria (2:30 pm PST) > > 14. Break (3:30 pm PST) > > 15. WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers (3:50 pm PST) > > a) Dec Editor's Draft: > http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/wsdl11elementidentifiers.html > See note from David: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0048.html > > b) ACTION-156 OPEN Respond to 1.1 element names topic Ashok Malhotra > DONE. See: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0128.html > > ACTION-171 Raise this technical issue (form of the > portType/operation/message designator) with jonathan Paul Cotton > DONE. > > Ashok raised the matter with the WSDL WG. See thread starting at: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0058.html > See WSDL WG's response: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0092.html > Also see the thread regarding the "In/Out" designators: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0100.html > > ACTION-188 OPEN Create a bug to change in,out ->input, output in > fragment syntax David Orchard 2007-01-17 > > c) ISSUE 4045: Scoping WSDL1.1 identifiers to WS-Pol Att defined > attachment points > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4045 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0031.html > > ACTION-173 Add the change proposal to Issue 4045 Christopher Ferris > > d) 'Canonical form for WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers', Paul > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0028.html > > ACTION-174 See what XPointer are in line with WSDL and syntax David > Orchard > Status: Done > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0095.html > > e) Support for operations with the same name, Fabian > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0065.html > > ACTION-175 Open an issue related to operations with the same name. > Fabian Ritzmann > DONE. > > ACTION-187 OPEN O to send an email with clear set of alternatives for > issue 4127 David Orchard 2007-01-17 > Status: Done > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0092.html > > f) [NEW ISSUE] 4208: identifiers should use WSDL 1.1 element names not > WSDL 2.0 component names > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0094.html > > 16. Recess (5:00 pm PST) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Wednesday Jan 17 > > 1. Primer issues 9:00 am PST) > > a) ACTION-152 Review 4.4.8 with respect to the addition of the > ignorable attribute ("treasure island") due December 1, David Orchard > DONE. See: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0070.html > Status: David outlined his proposal at the Dec 20 meeting. The WG has > until Jan 10 to decide if it should be adopted. > > b) (NEW) ISSUE 4041: Update primer to mention ignorable as needed, > Frederick > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4041 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0026.html > > ACTION-172 Produce a proposal for resolving issue 4041 by January 10 > Editors > > c) [NEW ISSUE] 4103 Questionable use of Contoso Ltd in Primer, Chris > Ferris > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4103 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0077.html > See thread ending at: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0102.html > Status: Asir and Chris have actions 183, 184 respectively > > ACTION-183 OPEN Research ownership of "Contoso" name/trademark. Asir > Vedamuthu 2007-01-10 > > ACTION-184 OPEN Follow-up on arch of www doc\\'s use of a company name > Christopher Ferris 2007-01-10 > > d) [NEW ISSUE] 4212, 4213 Use of empty policy for nesting should be > exemplified > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0100.html > > 2. Break (10:30 am PST) > > 3. Guidelines issues Part I (10:50 am PST) > > a) 3953 - Remove language that use of security policy assertions > forces nested assertions for other domains, Frederick > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3953 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0039.html > Status: Frederick's update proposal against more recent Guidelines doc: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0008.html > Revised proposal, closing Action-176: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0090.html > > ACTION-163 Work with Frederick to draft an example of the RM and > security composition requiring nesting Umit Yalcinalp 2006-12-13 DONE. > See: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0066.html > > ACTION-176 Revise proposal to accommodate Chris Ferris\\\\' ideas. > Umit to assist. Issue 3953. Coordinate with MaryAnn and Chris Ferris. > Frederick Hirsch > Status: Done > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0090.html > > b) 3979 Clarify the guidance in section 5.9.1 on referencing policy > expressions, Dan Roth > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3979 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0104.html > > ACTION-164 Try to write up alternative text that takes into > consideration today\\'s discussion on issue 3979 DONE. See: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0071.html > > c) ISSUE 4072: Statements not relevant to assertion design, Dan > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4072 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0046.html > Fabian's response: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0063.html > > d) ISSUE 4073: Free standing statements, Asir > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4073 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0049.html > > e) ISSUE 4074: Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues, Dan > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html > See exchange between Dan and Umit at: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0085.html > > 4. Lunch (12:30 pm PST) > > 5. Guidelines issues Part II (1:30 pm PST) > > f) ISSUE 4040: [Guidelines] Update guidelines to include discussion of > ignorable, Frederick http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4040 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0025.html > > g) 3978 Clarify if Section 7 on defining new policy attachment > mechanisms is necessary, Dan Roth > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3978 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0102.html > Maryann's response: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0131.html > > h) 3989 Suggested format for the Guidelines document., Asir > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3989 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0113.html > Maryann's response: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0132.html > Asir: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0139.html > Umit: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0141.html > > i) 3988 Section 8 doesn't illustrate how to design an assertion., Asir > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3988 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0112.html > Email discussion thread: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0000.html > > j) ISSUE 4035: [ Guidelines] Section 2 should account for interop > impact of non-wire or one-party assertions and ignorable property > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4035 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0007.html > > 6. Break (3:30 pm PST) > > 7. Guidelines issues Part III (3:50 pm PST) > > k) ISSUE (4074): [Guidelines] Collection of unclear Guidance or text > issues, Dan > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html > > l) 3981 What is the relevance of Section 4 'Authoring Styles' to > policy assertion design?, Asir > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3981 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0107.html > n) 3986 Parameters vs. Nested Policy decision at the Domain Level?, Asir > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3986 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0110.html > > m) 3987 Section 5.9 - Lifecycle of Assertions?, Asir > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3987 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0111.html > > o) 3990 Content in Section 5.7 is unclear, Dan Roth > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3990 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0114.html > > p) [NEW ISSUE]: Policy assertion semantics independent of attachment > mechanism > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4198 > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4198> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0083.html > > 8. V.Next issues (4:45 pm PST) > > a) [V.Next] 4178 Declaration of policy domains in policy expressions > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0057.html > > b) [V.Next] 4179 Preferences for policy expressions > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0058.html > > 9. Recess (5:00 pm PST) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Thursday Jan 18 > > 1. Any other business (9:00 am PST) > > Note that we will use Thursday as overflow from the previous days > discussion, > to allow for proposals to be written, circulated, and reviewed, etc. > > 2. Break (10:30 am PST) > > 3. Any other business II (10:50 am PST) > > 4. Lunch (12:30 pm PST) > > 5. Any other business III (1:30 am PST) > > 6. Adjourn (3:00 pm PST) > > Cheers, > > Christopher Ferris > STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy > email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com > blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/chrisferris > phone: +1 508 377 9295 > > /paulc > > Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada > 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3 > Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329 > mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com > > -- Fabian Ritzmann Sun Microsystems, Inc. Stella Business Park Phone +358-9-525 562 96 Lars Sonckin kaari 12 Fax +358-9-525 562 52 02600 Espoo Email Fabian.Ritzmann@Sun.COM Finland
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