Re: Agenda for 2011-11-23

Leigh,

Once again, belated regrets, ironically today because I was deploying an
XForms based project. I've been pulling 55+ hours weeks for the last month,
but am close to wrapping this project up, and hopefully by next week I'll
be in a position to talk about it, if not necessarily show it off.

Kurt Cagle
Invited Expert, XForms Working Group, W3C
Managing Editor, XMLToday.org
kurt.cagle@gmail.com
443-837-8725




On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. <Leigh.Klotz@xerox.com
> wrote:

> Chair: Steven Pemberton
> Start Time: 11:00am Eastern US (15:00Z, but back to 16:00Z during US
> Standard Time)
> Zakim Bridge +1.617.761.6200, conference 93676 ("XFORM")
> Duration: 60 minutes
>
> Previous Minutes
> - http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/**Forms/wiki/Minutes<http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Minutes>
>
> Minute takers rotation list, when not done by Leigh:
> Dan, Uli, Kurt, Erik, John, Nick, Steven
>
> Action Items and Tracker
> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/**tracker/xforms/<http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/xforms/>
>
> Resolutions
> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/**Forms/wiki/Resolutions<http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Resolutions>
>
> =============
> AGENDA ITEMS:
> =============
> * = be ready to discuss
> + = discuss time permitting
>
> ---------------------
> Administrative Issues
> ---------------------
>
> - XForms Basic 1.0
> Needs to be published as note.  Any changes needed to patent policy?
>
> - Fix our shortname issue
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2007Nov/**0096.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0096.html>
> http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-**versions<http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-versions>
>
> ==============================**=
> PROGRESS ON WORKING GROUP GOALS
> ==============================**=
> ------------------------------**-
> News and XForms Implementations
> ------------------------------**-
>
> --------------------
> W3C Document Reviews
> --------------------
>
> ----------------------------
> XForms Implementor Questions
> ----------------------------
> * Test 10.8.e needs work
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Nov/**0019.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Nov/0019.html>
>
> * XForms 1.1 xforms-select event
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-forms/2011Oct/0001.**html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Oct/0001.html>
> Orbeon has a special-purpose control for this; is it just appearance or
> are there semantics:
> http://wiki.orbeon.com/forms/**doc/developer-guide/xbl-**
> components/dialog-select<http://wiki.orbeon.com/forms/doc/developer-guide/xbl-components/dialog-select>
>
> ---------------------
> XForms Author Questions
> ---------------------
>
> - Submission namespace inclusion should recognize QName data nodes
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-forms-editor/**2009Nov/0002.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2009Nov/0002.html>
> Needs owner
>
> - Repeats and web service submissions don't work well together
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2009Nov/**0021.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Nov/0021.html>
> Needs owner
>
> - C. M. Sperberg-McQueen observation on tabbed interfaces, focus, etc
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Sep/**0055.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0055.html>
> Discussed 2011-04-27 but
> still need someone to dis-entangle the issues and see what's 1.1/2.0/3.0
>
> + Move selected items from one select drop down to another one
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-forms/2011Aug/0001.**html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Aug/0001.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-forms/2011Aug/0001.**html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Aug/0001.html>
> Is this done?
>
> + XForms initialization use case
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Feb/**0015.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Feb/0015.html>
>
> -----------------
> XForms 1.1 Issues
> -----------------
> - Improving the XForms 1.1 test suite
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-forms/2009Jun/0017.**html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Jun/0017.html>
>
> - XForms 1.1 and XHTML+XForms1.1 XSD Schemas
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-forms-editor/**2009Nov/0003.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2009Nov/0003.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Mar/**0001.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Mar/0001.html>
> Owen Newnan has handed off his work
> Philip Fennel (was Leigh Klotz) to pick up
>
> ------------------------------**--------------
> Advancing XForms for HTML / XForms for XHTML
> ------------------------------**--------------
>
> + XHTML + XForms Validator
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Nov/**0025.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Nov/0025.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Nov/**0026.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Nov/0026.html>
>
> - XHTML + XForms
> - Leigh has action to write goals document from Cambridge F2F minutes
> -- Goals
> -- Assertions
> -- Examples
> -- Test Suite
>
> - Rationalization of XForms for HTML, RDFa, and ARIA
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2009Mar/**0044.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0044.html>
>
> + XHTML + XForms Schema Update
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Sep/**0031.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0031.html>
> Needs directory created (2010?)
> Needs Leigh's updates for RNC schema agreement with errata
> C.M. Sperberg McQueen asks that consider taking out the IDRefs
>
> - XForms 1.1 and XHTML+XForms1.1 RelaxNG Schemas
> Possibly need to produce a strict schema (maximal restriction of known
> interoperable usage) and a lax schema (for extensions).  Vendors will
> customize the strict schema to show what their implementations support,
> but not customize the lax schema.
>
> - Update TheMatrix
> http://www.w3.org/QA/TheMatrix
>
> ----------
> XForms 2.0
> ----------
>
> + JSON Instances
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Jun/**0006.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0006.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Jun/**0007.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0007.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Jun/**0008.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0008.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Jun/**0009.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0009.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Jun/**0010.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0010.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Jun/**0011.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0011.html>
> Most recent messages:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Jun/**0028.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0028.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Jun/**0029.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0029.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Jun/**0030.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0030.html>
> Need to get wiki write up started.
>
> + transform function module
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Apr/**0018.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Apr/0018.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Apr/**0019.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Apr/0019.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011May/**0014.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011May/0014.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011May/**0015.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011May/0015.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011May/**0021.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011May/0021.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011May/**0019.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011May/0019.html>
> and new
> http://docs.basex.org/wiki/**XSLT_Functions<http://docs.basex.org/wiki/XSLT_Functions>
>
> + Schematron validation (via transform)
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-forms/2011May/0001.**html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011May/0001.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-forms/2011May/0002.**html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011May/0002.html>
>
> + label/@xml:lang, label/@model
> Discuss these remaining parts of Kurt Cagle's label/@for proposal.
>
> + Constraint-based alerts and MIP name, type, etc.
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Jan/**0028.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jan/0028.html>
>
> + Note 2 on XForms 1.1 computational dependency definition. Short-circuting
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-forms/2011Jan/0003.**html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Jan/0003.html>
> are we done with this (ask John Boyer)
>
> + node creation functions
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Apr/**0024.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0024.html>
>
> + XPath 2.0
> Status report from Nick van den Bleeken.
>
> + Text Annotations
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Apr/**0000.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Apr/0000.html>
> Status report from Dan McCreary
>
> + Tree Controls
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Apr/**0000.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Apr/0000.html>
> Status report from Dan McCreary
>
> - Eventable and Presented
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Nov/**0007.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Nov/0007.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Nov/**0008.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Nov/0008.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Nov/**0009.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Nov/0009.html>
> Are we dropping this?
>
> + base64 encoding for HTTP Basic Authentication - a gap in the XForms
> function library? (RFE)
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0012.**html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0012.html>
> Updated info:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Sep/**0050.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0050.html>
>
> + eBMS Submission
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0037.**html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0037.html>
>
> - Making XForms 2.0 more RESTful: submission URI Templates and matrix URIs
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Sep/**0020.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0020.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Sep/**0033.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0033.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Sep/**0039.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0039.html>
>
> + Dealing with HTTP response entities when response code is not 200 series
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Sep/**0006.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0006.html>
>
> + XSLT Action Proposal from Claudius Teodorescu
> Old thread:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0036.**html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0036.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Sep/**0027.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0027.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0000.**html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0000.html>
> New action, now includes XProc
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-forms/2010Nov/0000.**html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Nov/0000.html>
>
> * @iterate
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Oct/**0015.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Oct/0015.html>
> Bring to close today?
> Central issue is what to do with parent-less nodes, which are ignorable in
> XPath 1 but not in XPath 2.
> So XPath 1 implementations may skip action sequences where the context
> node is parent-less, but XPath 2 need not.
>
> * insert/delete @context
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Oct/**0032.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Oct/0032.html>
>
> * node creation function use cases
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2011Nov/**0007.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Nov/0007.html>
> John asks for node creation function use cases.
>
> + Improved UI Events
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Oct/**0010.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Oct/0010.html>
> Status?
>
> + model/@src use cases
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Apr/**0003.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0003.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Apr/**0004.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0004.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Apr/**0005.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0005.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Apr/**0017.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0017.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Apr/**0018.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0018.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Apr/**0019.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0019.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Apr/**0020.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0020.html>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Apr/**0021.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0021.html>
> Are we dropping this in favor of subforms?
>
> - Submit and Trigger Availability during (multiple) submissions
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Jan/**0022.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Jan/0022.html>
>
> - The case for multiple XForms labels in a control
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2009Dec/**0027.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Dec/0027.html>
>
> + XML Events: proposal to extend filtering on the event phase
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Jan/**0018.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Jan/0018.html>
>
> - Better upload facilities
> -- Instant upload submission to server
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2009Oct/**0061.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Oct/0061.html>
> -- Easier handling of multiple uploads
> -- Easier extraction of an upload back to the end-user context
> -- Easier request to display an upload
> -- Better control of metadata associated with upload data
> -- http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/**firefox/3.6/releasenotes/<http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6/releasenotes/>
> -- multiple upload control?
> -- download?
>
> + Access Control / Cross-site requests ; Uniform Messaging Policy, Level
> One
> http://www.w3.org/TR/access-**control/<http://www.w3.org/TR/access-control/>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/public-forms/2010Jan/**0042.html<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Jan/0042.html>
> Needs owner
>
> ----------
> XForms 3.0
> ----------
>
> - XQuery+XForms
> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/**Forms/wiki/XQuery<http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XQuery>
>
> - XBL
>
> - For more, see:
> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/**Forms/wiki/Future_Goals<http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Future_Goals>
>
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