- From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
- Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 14:48:50 -0800
- To: "public-ws-policy@w3.org" <public-ws-policy@w3.org>
Agenda: WS-Policy WG distributed meeting 31 - 2007-03-07 The phone number to use for the WS-Policy WG F2F is documented on the WG's administrative home page: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#phone Participants are invited to join IRC channel #ws-policy as documented on the WG's administrative home page. Please register with Zakim: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html 1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair a) Scribe List: Abbie Barbir (scribe for 2007-03-07) Dimitar Angelov Sanjiva Weerawarana Ruchith Fernando Jeffrey Crump Tom Jordahl Vladislav Bezrukov ---------------------- Jeff Mischkinsky Sanka Samaranayake Yakov Sverdlov Ümit Yalçinalp Asir Vedamuthu Maryann Hondo Dale Moberg Chris Ferris Mark Little Monica Martin Glen Daniels William Henry Toufic Boubez Frederick Hirsch Felix Sasaki Prasad Yendluri Anthony Nadalin Daniel Roth Fabian Ritzmann Sergey Beryozkin Charlton Barreto David Orchard Ashok Malhotra b) Scribe FAQ (Updated) Member only: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html 2. Review and approval of telcon minutes, Chair a) Review and approval of 2007-02-28 minutes Draft minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0179.html 3. Future WG meetings, Chair a) Next meeting is Sunnyvale, Ca F2F Mar 13-15 - Chair will alternate between Chris and Paul http://www.w3.org/2007/03/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html b) Future meetings http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#meetings Reminder: March 21 telcon is cancelled to allow members to recover from F2F c) Wed-Fri May 23-25 F2F meeting in Ottawa hosted by Nortel http://www.w3.org/2007/05/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html d) Tue-Thu Jul 17-19 F2F meeting in Dublin hosted by Iona http://www.w3.org/2007/07/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html 4. Editorial team report Current Editors drafts: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/#drafts 5. Review action items, Chair Open action items: Member only: http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/open ACTION-227 Chris Ferris to add issues for attachments, guidelines and primer related to the changed qname of the ws-addressing metadata assertion ACTION-232 Chris and Paul to open dialog with WS-A and WS-RX TC chairs to find a way forward to address the problems between the three groups ACTION-234 Asir to provide format for recording interop results ACTION-236 Chris Ferris to add agenda item related to interop preparation/set-up DONE (see below) ACTION-237 Felix to update public home page with interop scenario link ACTION-238 Paul and Chris to discuss how to collect and maintain interop results (e.g. who does this) ACTION-239 Asir to work on xml:id, refactoring wsu:id test cases and update scenarios accordingly DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0032.html ACTION-240 Ashok to provide feature 22 (wsdl2.0) test cases using wsdl2.0 documents in the round 3 scenarios DONE. See: Testcases for External Attachment WSDL 1.1 and 2.0, Ashok http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0020.html ACTION-241 Chris Ferris to prepare test cases for feature 43 - Negative testing ACTION-242 Ashok to provide expected outcome docs for Feature 23 test cases ACTION-243 Asir to produce a list of change areas in the framework and attachments primer and guidelines specs related to a change in the reference to the oasis ws-sec policy spec to reference the latest available published committee draft 6. Adoption of new CR test cases a) Test cases for xml:id, Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4301 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0010.html See dialogue in: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0041.html ACTION-239 Asir to work on xml:id, refactoring wsu:id test cases and update scenarios accordingly DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0032.html b) Feature 43, negative test cases, Chris http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/241 c) Feature 22 test cases, Ashok ACTION-240 Ashok to provide feature 22 (wsdl2.0) test cases using wsdl2.0 documents in the round 3 scenarios DONE. See: Testcases for External Attachment WSDL 1.1 and 2.0, Ashok http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0020.html d) Feature 23, Ashok ACTION-242 Ashok to provide expected outcome docs for Feature 23 test cases e) test suite issue 4370: Round 2 WSDL 1.1 input file contains invalid references http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0030.html Asir response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0031.html f) WS-Policy Features and Interop Scenarios - Round 4, Prasad http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0002.html 7. Issues requiring proposals for F2F meeting, Paul C a) ISSUE 4040: [Guidelines] Update guidelines to include discussion of ignorable, Frederick http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4040 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0025.html b) Issue 4213: Use of empty policy for nesting should be exemplified http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0100.html c) Issue 4262: Use of @wsp:optional and @wsp:Ignorable on t... http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4262 See Monica's recent email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0061.html d) Issue 4300 - Misue of best practises in primer, Umit http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4300 8. Liaison items a) Feedback to WS-Addressing WG on Web Services Addressing 1.0 - Metadata specification Email to WS-A WG: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0153.html Consolidated list of Alternatives A thru D to resolved WS ADDR LC comment http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0027.html Note: I am not proposing we discuss this at this meeting. This is being processed by the WS-Addressing WG. 9. WS-Policy Call for Implementations, Chair a) Announcement http://www.w3.org/News/2007#item33 b) Drafts http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/CR-ws-policy-20070228 http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/CR-ws-policy-attach-20070228/ c) Published endpoints available: Microsoft: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0171.html IBM: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0172.html d) Discussion of interop infrastructure and setup requirements Note: WSO2 has indicated a need to participate remotely e) ACTION-234 Asir to provide format for recording interop results 10. WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers Status: No one volunteered at the Feb 21 meeting to lead an email discussion of these comments. Therefore the WG will have to discuss these in a distributed meeting. a) Issue 4331: WSDL WG comment 1 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0092.html b) Issue 4332: WSDL WG comment 2 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0093.html Recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0157.html 11. CR interop scenarios and testing Note: Please use bugzilla for test case issues, including proposals for missing test cases. a) WS-Policy Features and Interop Scenarios, Asir http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0143.html b) Updated interop scenarios document, Editors http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0037.html c) Editor's questions about interop scenarios http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0037.html See also Issue 4311: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4311 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0035.html d) Other interop scenario discussion items 12. CR issues None 13. Primer issues a) Issue 4103 - Questionable use of Contoso Ltd in Primer, Chris Ferris http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4103 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0077.html See thread ending at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0102.html Status: Asir has action 183 ACTION-183 OPEN Research ownership of "Contoso" name/trademark. Asir Vedamuthu 2007-01-10 See email from Chris Ferris: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0033.html b) Issue 4339 - Update references to interoperability in Ignorable Policy Expressions http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4339 c) Issue 4263 - Add text to ignorable discussion on passing ignorable Updated proposal from Monica: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0013.html Email discussion: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0012.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0011.html Recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0165.html d) Issue 4253 - [Primer] Basic Concepts section on Policy does not explain usage reasonably http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4253 ACTION-201 William Henry to a concrete proposal for 4255 and 4253 DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0078.html e) Issue 4255 - Section 2.9 should also explain basic attaching http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4255 ACTION-201 William Henry to a concrete proposal for 4255 and 4253 DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0076.html f) Issue 4288 - Primer: Absence of Policy Assertions (editorial), Monica http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0214.html ACTION-217 Maryann and Monica to amend issue 4288 DONE: Proposal from Monica: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0014.html Recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0151.html 14. Guidelines issues, Part 1 a) ISSUE 4035: [Guidelines] Section 2 should account for interop impact of non-wire or one-party assertions and ignorable property http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4035 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0007.html recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0169.html 15. Guidelines issues, Part 2 a) ISSUE 3987: Section 5.9 - Lifecycle of Assertions?, Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3987 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0111.html b) ISSUE 4035: [ Guidelines] Section 2 should account for interop impact of non-wire or one-party assertions and ignorable property http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4035 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0007.html c) ISSUE 4072: Statements not relevant to assertion design, Dan http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4072 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0046.html Fabian's response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0063.html d) ISSUE 3979: Clarify the guidance in section 5.9.1 on referencing policy expressions, Dan Roth http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3979 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0104.html Recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0167.html ACTION-164 Try to write up alternative text that takes into consideration today\\'s discussion on issue 3979 DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0071.html e) ISSUE 4073: Free standing statements, Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4073 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0049.html f) ISSUE 4074: Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues, Dan http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html See exchange between Dan and Umit at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0085.html g) ISSUE 3978: Clarify if Section 7 on defining new policy attachment mechanisms is necessary, Dan Roth http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3978 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0102.html Maryann's response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0131.html h) ISSUE 3989: Suggested format for the Guidelines document., Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3989 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0113.html Maryann's response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0132.html Asir: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0139.html Umit: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0141.html i) ISSUE 3988: Section 8 doesn't illustrate how to design an assertion., Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3988 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0112.html Email discussion thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0000.html j) ISSUE 4074: [Guidelines] Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues, Dan http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html k) ISSUE 3981: What is the relevance of Section 4 'Authoring Styles' to policy assertion design?, Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3981 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0107.html Proposal from Umit: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0000.html l) ISSUE 3990: Content in Section 5.7 is unclear, Dan Roth http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3990 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0114.html m) [NEW ISSUE] 4198: Policy assertion semantics independent of attachment mechanism http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4198 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0083.html ACTION-218 Umit and Maryann to provide text for subject attachment Extensibility in guidelines DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0057.html n) ACTION-192 Maryann give proposal for changes resulting from 4142 2007-01-23 DONE http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0003.html o) ISSUE 4319: [Guidelines] (Editorial) WS-RMP reference should be consistent with other references http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4319 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0059.html Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3 Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329 mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com
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