- From: Yalcinalp, Umit <umit.yalcinalp@sap.com>
- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:56:56 -0800
- To: "Asir Vedamuthu" <asirveda@microsoft.com>, "Fabian Ritzmann" <Fabian.Ritzmann@Sun.COM>
- Cc: "Frederick Hirsch" <frederick.hirsch@nokia.com>, <public-ws-policy@w3.org>
Asir, I agree with you. Glen's expresses the intent better. --umit > -----Original Message----- > From: Asir Vedamuthu [mailto:asirveda@microsoft.com] > Sent: Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 12:20 PM > To: Yalcinalp, Umit; Fabian Ritzmann > Cc: Frederick Hirsch; public-ws-policy@w3.org > Subject: RE: NEW ISSUE (4263) [Primer] Inform domain specific > processing of ignorability of assertions > > On the Jan 31st WG conference call, Glen made a similar > proposal (scrapping from the minutes): > > 'Domain-specific processing could take advantage of any > information from the policy data model, such as the ignorable > property of a policy assertion'. > > It appears that either Glen or Umit's proposal works. From a > reader point of view, Glen's proposal sounds cleaner. > > Regards, > > Asir S Vedamuthu > Microsoft Corporation > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yalcinalp, Umit [mailto:umit.yalcinalp@sap.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:16 PM > To: Fabian Ritzmann; Asir Vedamuthu > Cc: Frederick Hirsch; public-ws-policy@w3.org > Subject: RE: NEW ISSUE (4263) [Primer] Inform domain specific > processing of ignorability of assertions > > How about something like the following: > > {Policy Data model is available to domain-specific processing that may > take into account any aspect of the datamodel, such as the > wsp:Ignorable > attribute.} > > --umit > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org > > [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of > Fabian Ritzmann > > Sent: Tuesday, Feb 06, 2007 11:54 AM > > To: Asir Vedamuthu > > Cc: Frederick Hirsch; public-ws-policy@w3.org > > Subject: Re: NEW ISSUE (4263) [Primer] Inform domain specific > > processing of ignorability of assertions > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I agree that any domain-specific processing would see Ignorable > > attributes because they are part of the policy assertion. > > Maybe we could > > just add something simple to the end of the section like: > > > > "Domain-specific processing is aware of whether the assertions it is > > processing were marked as Ignorable since they are part of > > the assertion's data model." > > > > > > Fabian > > > > > > Asir Vedamuthu wrote: > > >> "Domain specific processing should be made aware of > > whether assertions > > >> it is processing were marked as ignorable > > >> > > > > > > Ignorable property of a policy assertion is captured in the > > policy data model [1]. Policy intersection is computed at the > > policy data model level and the parts of a policy assertion > > is visible to domain specific processing. It is not clear > > what additional information should be passed to domain > > specific processing beyond these? > > > > > > [1] "An assertion MAY indicate that it is an ignorable > > policy assertion (see 4.4 Ignorable Policy Assertions)" - > > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-ws-policy-20061117/#rPolicy_Assertion > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Asir S Vedamuthu > > > Microsoft Corporation > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org > > [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of > Frederick Hirsch > > > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:22 PM > > > To: public-ws-policy@w3.org > > > Cc: Hirsch Frederick > > > Subject: NEW ISSUE (4263) [Primer] Inform domain specific > > processing of ignorability of assertions > > > > > > > > > Bugzilla: <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4263> > > > > > > The new text added to primer on ignorable (as in issue 4041 > > and noted in > > > resolution <http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-ws-policy- > > > irc#T22-08-44-1> ) should > > > include explanation that domain specific processing should > > be aware of > > > ignorable marking of assertion. (Thread about proposal for 4041 at > > > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/ > > > 0187.html> ) > > > > > > Proposal: > > > > > > Add following text proposed to be added at end of new > section 3.4.1 > > > Strict and > > > Lax Policy Intersection > > > > > > "Domain specific processing should be made aware of whether > > > assertions it is > > > processing were marked as ignorable since that may impact domain > > > specific > > > processing." > > > > > > [Note that this proposal is different from the following > text which > > > was removed > > > from the original proposal for 4041 > > > > > > "When domain specific processing is to be performed in > strict mode, > > > it is up to > > > that domain specific processing to interpret the Ignorable > > > rattribute. In lax > > > mode it is not relevant since ignorable assertions are > not passed to > > > the domain > > > specific processing step of the intersection algorithm."] > > > > > > regards, Frederick > > > > > > Frederick Hirsch > > > Nokia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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