- From: Sverdlov, Yakov <Yakov.Sverdlov@ca.com>
- Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:48:23 -0400
- To: "Christopher B Ferris" <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>, <public-ws-policy@w3.org>
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Regrets for today's meeting - conflicting meeting. Regards, Yakov Sverdlov CA ________________________________ From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Christopher B Ferris Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:24 PM To: public-ws-policy@w3.org Subject: [VER2] Agenda: WS-Policy WG F2F meeting 32 - 2007-03-13 to 2007-03-15 1. added 4292 2. added link to negative test case proposal 3. added Prasad's new issue 4. added proposal for 3989 ------------------------------------------------------ Agenda: WS-Policy WG F2F meeting 32 - 2007-03-13 to 2007-03-15 This meeting will be hosted by WedMethods in Sunnyvale, Ca F2F Chair will http://www.w3.org/2007/03/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html The phone number to use for the WS-Policy WG F2F is documented on the WG's administrative home page: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#phone Participants are invited to join IRC channel #ws-policy as documented on the WG's administrative home page. Please register with Zakim: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html Tuesday 13 March, 2007 - 9:00 am PDT - 5:00 pm PDT 1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair (9:00 am PDT) a) Scribe List: Maryann Hondo (scribe Tue Mar 13 AM) Dale Moberg (scribe Tue Mar 13 PM) Monica Martin (scribe Wed Mar 14 AM) Felix Sasaki (scribe Wed Mar 14 PM) Asir Vedamuthu (scribe Thu Mar 15 AM) Frederick Hirsch (scribe Thu Mar 15 PM) Dimitar Angelov Sanjiva Weerawarana Ruchith Fernando Tom Jordahl Vladislav Bezrukov ---------------------- Symon Chang Doug Davis Jacques Durand Steve Jones Paul Knight Mohammad Makarechian Jonathan Marsh Arnaud Meyniel Sanjay Patil Skip Snow Mark Temple-Raston Jeff Mischkinsky Sanka Samaranayake Yakov Sverdlov Dale Moberg Chris Ferris Mark Little Glen Daniels William Henry Toufic Boubez Frederick Hirsch Prasad Yendluri Anthony Nadalin Daniel Roth Fabian Ritzmann Sergey Beryozkin Charlton Barreto David Orchard Ashok Malhotra Abbie Barbir b) Scribe FAQ (Updated) Member only: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html 2. Review and approval of telcon minutes, Chair (9:05 am PDT) a) Review and approval of 2007-03-07 minutes Draft minutes: http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-ws-policy-minutes.html Cleaned-up: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Mar/0019.html (member only) 3. Future WG meetings, Chair (9:10 am PDT) a) Future meetings http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#meetings Reminder: March 21 telcon is cancelled to allow members^^^^^^^chairs to recover from F2F c) Wed-Fri May 23-25 F2F meeting in Ottawa hosted by Nortel http://www.w3.org/2007/05/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html d) Tue-Thu Jul 17-19 F2F meeting in Dublin hosted by Iona http://www.w3.org/2007/07/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html 4. Editorial team report (9:15 am PDT) Current Editors drafts: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/#drafts a) WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers Editor's draft http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/wsdl11elementidentifi ers.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8 Status: The WG will consider re-publication of a revised draft since there are no open issues remaining. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0060.html 5. Review action items, Chair (9:20 am PDT) Open action items: Member only: http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/open ACTION-234 Asir to provide format for recording interop results Status: Work in progress and XML format for results will be available on Fri Mar 9. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0062.html Follow-up from Chris: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0070.html ACTION-238 Paul and Chris to discuss how to collect and maintain interop results (e.g. who does this) Status: To be discussed at F2F. ACTION-241 Chris Ferris to prepare test cases for feature 43 - Negative testing Status: Done See email from Chris: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0068.html ACTION-243 Asir to produce a list of change areas in the framework and attachments primer and guidelines specs related to a change in the reference to the oasis ws-sec policy spec to reference the latest available published committee draft Status: TBD after the F2F. ACTION-246 Propose resolution for 4213 (example for ignorable) Maryann Hondo 2007-03-14 ACTION-247 Propose resolution to 4262, Monica to help Prasad Yendluri 2007-03-14 ACTION-248 start e-mails on 4300 David Orchard 2007-03-14 ACTION-249 Create a seperate interop mailing list (public-ws-policy-interop@w3.org) Felix Sasaki 2007-03-14 Done: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Mar/0020.html (member only) 6. WS-Policy Call for Implementations, Chair (9:30 am PDT) a) Published endpoints available: Microsoft: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0171.html IBM: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0172.html webMethods: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Mar/0024.html Layer7: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Mar/0023.html WSO2: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Mar/0022.html Note: we expect to maintain this on the interop status page being prepared by Asir see Action-234 b) Discussion of interop infrastructure and setup requirements ACTION-249 - Create a seperate interop list [on Felix Sasaki - due 2007-03-14]. DONE: Done: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Mar/0020.html (member only) c) ACTION-234 Asir to provide format for recording interop results Status: Work in progress and XML format for results will be available on Fri Mar 9. d) Editor's questions about interop scenarios http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0037.html See also Issue 4311: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4311 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0035.html 7. CR Issues (10:00 am PDT) a. [NEW ISSUE] 4379 Note about c14n 1.1 , Felix http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0051.html b. [NEW ISSUE] 4292 Intersection mode is neither defaulted nor specified http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4292 c. [NEW ISSUE] 4292 WS-Policy 1.5 Attachment UDDI tModel keys and related references outdated, Prasad http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0067.html 8. Adoption of CR test cases (10:10 am PDT) a) Feature 22 test cases, Ashok ACTION-240 Ashok to provide feature 22 (wsdl2.0) test cases using wsdl2.0 documents in the round 3 scenarios DONE. See: Testcases for External Attachment WSDL 1.1 and 2.0, Ashok http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0020.html Status: Ashok is working a revision for the F2F meeting. b) Feature 23, Ashok ACTION-242 Ashok to provide expected outcome docs for Feature 23 test cases Status: Pending. c) Feature 43, negative test cases, Chris ACTION-241 Chris Ferris to prepare test cases for feature 43 - Negative testing http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/241 Status: Chris is working on a test case for the F2F with some a wsp:name that is invalid operator. d) test suite issue 4370: Round 2 WSDL 1.1 input file contains invalid references http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0030.html Asir response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0031.html Status: Fabian asked for more time to review the proposed changes. e) Other CR test cases issues 9. Break (10:30 am PDT) 10. Liaison items (11:00 am PDT) a) Feedback to WS-Addressing WG on Web Services Addressing 1.0 - Metadata specification Email to WS-A WG: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0153.html Consolidated list of Alternatives A thru D to resolved WS ADDR LC comment http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0027.html Note: I am not proposing we discuss this at this meeting. This is being processed by the WS-Addressing WG. a) WS-Addressing Metadata issues: 4374, 4375, and 4376 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0044.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0045.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0046.html 10. Issues requiring proposals for F2F meeting, Paul C (11:05 am PDT) a) Issue 4213: Use of empty policy for nesting should be exemplified http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0100.html ACTION-246 - Propose resolution for 4213 (example for ignorable) [on Maryann Hondo - due 2007-03-14]. b) Issue 4262: Use of @wsp:optional and @wsp:Ignorable on t... http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4262 See Monica's recent email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0061.html Created ACTION-247 - Propose resolution to 4262, Monica to help [on Prasad Yendluri - due 2007-03-14]. c) Issue 4300 - Misue of best practises in primer, Umit http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4300 Created ACTION-248 - Orchard start e-mails on 4300 [on David Orchard - due 2007-03-14]. 11. Primer issues (11:30 am PDT) a) Issue 4103 - Questionable use of Contoso Ltd in Primer, Chris Ferris http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4103 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0077.html See thread ending at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0102.html Status: Asir has action 183 ACTION-183 OPEN Research ownership of "Contoso" name/trademark. Asir Vedamuthu 2007-01-10 See email from Chris Ferris: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0033.html b) Issue 4339 - Update references to interoperability in Ignorable Policy Expressions http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4339 c) Issue 4263 - Add text to ignorable discussion on passing ignorable Updated proposal from Monica: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0013.html Email discussion: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0012.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0011.html Recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0165.html d) Issue 4253 - [Primer] Basic Concepts section on Policy does not explain usage reasonably http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4253 ACTION-201 William Henry to a concrete proposal for 4255 and 4253 DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0078.html See recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0048.html e) Issue 4255 - Section 2.9 should also explain basic attaching http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4255 ACTION-201 William Henry to a concrete proposal for 4255 and 4253 DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0076.html See recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0048.html f) Issue 4288 - Primer: Absence of Policy Assertions (editorial), Monica http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0214.html ACTION-217 Maryann and Monica to amend issue 4288 DONE: Proposal from Monica: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0014.html Recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0151.html Friendly Amendment from Maryann: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0047.html 12. Lunch (12:30 pm PDT) 13. Guidelines issues, Part 1 (1:30 pm PDT) a) Issue 4035 and 4040 ISSUE 4035: [Guidelines] Section 2 should account for interop impact of non-wire or one-party assertions and ignorable property http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4035 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0007.html recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0169.html ISSUE 4040: [Guidelines] Update guidelines to include discussion of ignorable, Frederick http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4040 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0025.html 13. Guidelines issues, Part 2 (2:00 pm PDT) a) ISSUE 3987: Section 5.9 - Lifecycle of Assertions?, Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3987 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0111.html b) ISSUE 4035: [ Guidelines] Section 2 should account for interop impact of non-wire or one-party assertions and ignorable property http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4035 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0007.html c) ISSUE 4072: Statements not relevant to assertion design, Dan http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4072 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0046.html Fabian's response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0063.html d) ISSUE 3979: Clarify the guidance in section 5.9.1 on referencing policy expressions, Dan Roth http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3979 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0104.html Recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0167.html ACTION-164 Try to write up alternative text that takes into consideration today\\'s discussion on issue 3979 DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0071.html amended by: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0167.html e) ISSUE 4073: Free standing statements, Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4073 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0049.html f) ISSUE 4074: Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues, Dan http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html See exchange between Dan and Umit at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0085.html 14. Break (3:30 pm PDT) 15. Guidelines issues, Part 3 (4:00 pm PDT) a) ISSUE 3978: Clarify if Section 7 on defining new policy attachment mechanisms is necessary, Dan Roth http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3978 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0102.html Maryann's response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0131.html b) ISSUE 3989: Suggested format for the Guidelines document., Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3989 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0113.html Maryann's response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0132.html Asir: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0139.html Umit: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0141.html Proposal from IBM/MSFT: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0069.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0071.html c) ISSUE 3988: Section 8 doesn't illustrate how to design an assertion., Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3988 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0112.html Email discussion thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0000.html 16. Recess (5:00 pm PDT) Wednesday 14 March, 2007 - 9:00 am PDT - 5:00 pm PDT 1. Interop prelim report, Jonathan Marsh (9:00 am PDT) 2. Guidelines issues, Part 4 (9:10 am PDT) a) ISSUE 4074: [Guidelines] Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues, Dan http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html b) ISSUE 3981: What is the relevance of Section 4 'Authoring Styles' to policy assertion design?, Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3981 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0107.html Proposal from Umit: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0000.html c) ISSUE 3990: Content in Section 5.7 is unclear, Dan Roth http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3990 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0114.html 3. Break (10:30 am PDT) 4. Guidelines issues, Part 4 (11:00 am PDT) a) [NEW ISSUE] 4198: Policy assertion semantics independent of attachment mechanism http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4198 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0083.html ACTION-218 Umit and Maryann to provide text for subject attachment Extensibility in guidelines DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0057.html b) ACTION-192 Maryann give proposal for changes resulting from 4142 2007-01-23 DONE http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0003.html c) ISSUE 4319: [Guidelines] (Editorial) WS-RMP reference should be consistent with other references http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4319 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0059.html 5. Lunch (12:30 pm PDT) 6. AOB (1:30 pm PDT) 7. Break (3:30 pm PDT) 8. AOB (4:00 pm PDT) 9. Recess (5:00 pm PDT) Thursday 15 March, 2007 9:00 am - 3:00 pm PDT 1. Interop report and feedback, Jonathan Marsh (9:00 am PDT) 2. Break (10:30 am PDT) 3. AOB 4. Lunch (12:30 pm PDT) 5. AOB (1:30 pm PDT) 6. Break (3:30 pm PDT) 7. AOB (4:00 pm PDT) 8. Recess (5:00 pm PDT) Christopher Ferris STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/chrisferris phone: +1 508 377 9295 Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3 Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329 mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com
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