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Re: [VER 2] Agenda: WS-Policy WG telcon 29 - 2007-02-28

From: Sergey Beryozkin <sergey.beryozkin@iona.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:21:52 -0000
Message-ID: <003c01c75b43$caec03b0$c301020a@sberyoz>
To: <public-ws-policy@w3.org>, "Christopher B Ferris" <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>
Hi 

I'm not seeing a reference to this primer issue I opened last week :

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4339

Thanks, Sergey

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Christopher B Ferris 
  To: public-ws-policy@w3.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:00 PM
  Subject: [VER 2] Agenda: WS-Policy WG telcon 29 - 2007-02-28



  Updated to reflect recent email threads 

  Christopher Ferris
  STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy
  email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
  blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/chrisferris
  phone: +1 508 377 9295 

  __________________ 


  Agenda: WS-Policy WG distributed meeting 29 - 2007-02-28 
    
  The phone number to use for the WS-Policy WG F2F is documented on the WG's administrative home page: 
  http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#phone 
    
  Participants are invited to join IRC channel #ws-policy as documented on the WG's administrative home page. Please register with Zakim: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html 
    
  1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair 
    
  a) Scribe List: 

  Ashok Malhotra (Scribe for Feb 28) 
  Dimitar Angelov 
  Sanjiva Weerawarana 
  Ruchith Fernando 
  Jeffrey Crump 
  Tom Jordahl 
  Vladislav Bezrukov 
  ---------------------- 
  Jeff Mischkinsky 
  Abbie Barbir 
  Sanka Samaranayake 
  Yakov Sverdlov 
  Ümit Yalçinalp 
  Asir Vedamuthu 
  Maryann Hondo 
  Dale Moberg 
  Chris Ferris 
  Mark Little 
  Monica Martin 
  Glen Daniels 
  William Henry 
  Toufic Boubez 
  Frederick Hirsch 
  Felix Sasaki 
  Prasad Yendluri 
  Anthony Nadalin 
  Daniel Roth 
  Fabian Ritzmann 
  Sergey Beryozkin 
  Charlton Barreto 
  David Orchard 
    
  b) Scribe FAQ (Updated) 
  Member only: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html 
    
  2. Review and approval of telcon minutes, Chair 
    
  a) Review and approval of 2007-02-21 minutes 
  Draft minutes (member only): 
  http://www.w3.org/2007/02/21-ws-policy-minutes.html 
    
  3. Future WG meetings, Chair 
    
  a) Next distributed meeting is Wed Mar 7 - Chair is Paul 
    
  b) Future meetings 
  http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#meetings 

  c) Tue-Thu Mar 13-15 F2F meeting in Santa Clara hosted by webMethods 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Jan/0000.html 
  http://www.w3.org/2007/03/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html 
  Note: Please register before the Mar 5 deadline and as early as possible. 
    
  d) Wed-Fri May 23-25 F2F meeting in Ottawa hosted by Nortel 
  http://www.w3.org/2007/05/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html 
    
  e) Tue-Thu Jul 17-19 F2F meeting in Dublin hosted by Iona 
  http://www.w3.org/2007/07/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html 
    
  4. Editorial team report 
  Current Editors drafts: 
  http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/#drafts 
    
  5. Review action items, Chair 
  Open action items: 
  Member only: 
  http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/open 
    
  ACTION-213 Chris Ferris to find an owner for feature 22 
    
  ACTION-225 Philippe to ut up logistics page for Dublin F2F 
    
  ACTION-226 Philippe to update member page to reflect the change in F2F dates and to change the cancelled meeting from Aug 1 to Jul 25 
    
  ACTION-227 Chris Ferris to add issues for attachments, guidelines and primer related to the changed qname of the ws-addressing metadata assertion 
    
  ACTION-228 Chris Ferris and Umit to revise WG draft comments to WS-A WG 
    
  ACTION-229 Fabian and other WG members to reply in timely manner to the revised draft from TF 
  DONE 
    
  ACTION-230 Chris Ferris and Paul to send resulting material to the WS-A WG by Feb 23 after reaching consensus within the WG 
  DONE 
    
  ACTION-231 Chris Ferris and Paul to inform the WS-RX TC of our comments on WS-A Metadata 
  DONE 
    
  ACTION-232 Chris Ferris and Paul to open dialog with WS-A and WS-RX TC chairs to find a way forward to address the problems between the three groups 
  (partial - have had discussion with Bob Freund) 
    
  ACTION-233 Asir to update features and scenarios table in document 

  ACTION-234 Asir to provide format for recording interop results 
    
  6. Adoption of new CR test cases 
  Status: The WG agreed to review these new test cases before the Feb 28 meeting so that meeting can decide on their adoption. 
    
  a) Test cases for xml:id, Felix 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4301 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0010.html 
  See dialogue in: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0041.html 

  b) Test case for xml:base usage, Chris F 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0062.html 

  c) Test case for the policy MIME type, Glen 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0001.html 

  d) UDDI scenario and test cases, Prasad 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0206.html 

  e) Feature 23 test cases, Ashok 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0104.html 

  f)    Feature 22 test cases, Ashok 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0166.html 

  7. Liaison items 
    
  a) Feedback to WS-Addressing WG on Web Services Addressing 1.0 - Metadata specification 
  Draft discussed on Feb 21: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0110.html 
  Email to WS-A WG: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0153.html 
    
  8. WS-Policy Call for Implementations, Chair 
  Member-only: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Feb/0020.html 
  Published endpoints available: 
          http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0171.html 
    
  9. WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers 
  Status: No one volunteered at the Feb 21 meeting to lead an email discussion of these comments.  Therefore the WG will have to discuss these in a distributed meeting. 
    
  a) Issue 4331: WSDL WG comment 1 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0092.html 
    
  b) Issue 4332: WSDL WG comment 2 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0093.html 
  recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0157.html 
    
  10. CR interop scenarios and testing 
  Note: Please use bugzilla for test case issues, including proposals for missing test cases. 
    
  a) WS-Policy Features and Interop Scenarios, Asir 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0143.html 

  b) Updated interop scenarios document, Editors 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0037.html 

  c) Adding negative test cases, Chris F 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0199.html 

  d) Outstanding test cases, Chair 
  ACTION-213 Chris Ferris to find an owner for feature 22 
    
  e) Editor's questions about interop scenarios 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0037.html 
  See also Issue 4311: 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4311 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0035.html 

  f) Other interop scenario discussion items 
    
  11. CR issues 
    
  a) Issue 4318: Which WS-SecurityPolicy version should be used as a reference? Umit 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4318 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0058.html 
    
  12. Primer issues 
    
  a) [NEW ISSUE] 4103 Questionable use of Contoso Ltd in Primer, Chris Ferris 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4103 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0077.html 
  See thread ending at: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0102.html 
  Status: Asir has action 183 
    
  ACTION-183 OPEN Research ownership of "Contoso" name/trademark. Asir Vedamuthu 2007-01-10 
  See email from Chris Ferris: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0033.html 
    
  b) Issue 4263 - Add text to ignorable discussion on passing ignorable 
  Updated proposal from Monica: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0013.html 
  Email discussion: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0012.html 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0011.html 
  Recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0165.html 
    
  c) [NEW ISSUE] 4212, 4213 Use of empty policy for nesting should be exemplified 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0100.html 
    
  ACTION-216 Umit to propose text for primer or guideline for issue 4212 
  DONE. See: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0094.html 
    
  c) Issue 4253: [Primer] Basic Concepts section on Policy does not explain usage reasonably 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4253 
    
  ACTION-201 William Henry to a concrete proposal for 4255 and 4253 
  DONE.  See: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0078.html 
    
  d) [NEW ISSUE] 4212, 4213 Use of empty policy for nesting should be exemplified 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0100.html 
    
  ACTION-216 Umit to propose text for primer or guideline for issue 4212 
  DONE. See: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0094.html 
    
  e) [NEW ISSUE] 4255: Section 2.9 should also explain basic attaching 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4255 
    
  ACTION-201 William Henry to a concrete proposal for 4255 and 4253 
  DONE.  See: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0076.html 
    
  f) Issue 4288 - Primer: Absence of Policy Assertions (editorial), Monica 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0214.html 
  ACTION-217  Maryann and Monica to amend issue 4288 
  DONE: 
  Proposal from Monica: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0014.html 
  Recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0151.html 
    
  g) Issue 4300 - Misue of best practises in primer, Umit 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4300 

  13. Guidelines issues, Part 1 
    
  a) ISSUE 4035: [Guidelines] Section 2 should account for interop impact of non-wire or one-party assertions and ignorable property 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4035 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0007.html 
  recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0169.html 
    
  b) ISSUE 4040: [Guidelines] Update guidelines to include discussion of ignorable, Frederick http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4040 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0025.html 

  c) [NEW ISSUE] 4262 Use of @wsp:optional and @wsp:Ignorable on t... 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4262 
  See Monica's recent email: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0061.html 

  14. Guidelines issues, Part 2 
    
  a) ISSUE 3987: Section 5.9 - Lifecycle of Assertions?, Asir 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3987 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0111.html 

  b) ISSUE 4035: [ Guidelines] Section 2 should account for interop impact of non-wire or one-party assertions and ignorable property 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4035 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0007.html 
    
  c) ISSUE 4072: Statements not relevant to assertion design, Dan 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4072 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0046.html 
  Fabian's response: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0063.html 
    
  d) ISSUE 3979: Clarify the guidance in section 5.9.1 on referencing policy expressions, Dan Roth 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3979 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0104.html 
  Recent thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0167.html 
    
  ACTION-164 Try to write up alternative text that takes into consideration today\\'s discussion on issue 3979 DONE. See: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0071.html 
    
  e) ISSUE 4073: Free standing statements, Asir 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4073 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0049.html 
    
  f) ISSUE 4074: Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues, Dan 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html 
  See exchange between Dan and Umit at: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0085.html 
    
  g) ISSUE 3978: Clarify if Section 7 on defining new policy attachment mechanisms is necessary, Dan Roth 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3978 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0102.html 
  Maryann's response: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0131.html 
    
  h) ISSUE 3989: Suggested format for the Guidelines document., Asir 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3989 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0113.html 
  Maryann's response: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0132.html 
  Asir: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0139.html 
  Umit: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0141.html 
    
  i) ISSUE 3988: Section 8 doesn't illustrate how to design an assertion., Asir 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3988 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0112.html 
  Email discussion thread: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0000.html 
    
  j) ISSUE 4074: [Guidelines] Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues, Dan 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html 
    
  k) ISSUE 3981: What is the relevance of Section 4 'Authoring Styles' to policy assertion design?, Asir 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3981 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0107.html 
  Proposal from Umit: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0000.html 
    
  l) ISSUE 3990: Content in Section 5.7 is unclear, Dan Roth http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3990 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0114.html 
    
  m) [NEW ISSUE] 4198: Policy assertion semantics independent of attachment mechanism 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4198 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0083.html 
  ACTION-218 Umit and Maryann to provide text for subject attachment Extensibility in guidelines 
  DONE.  See: 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0057.html 
    
  n) ACTION-192 Maryann give proposal for changes resulting from 4142         2007-01-23 
  DONE 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0003.html 
    
  o) ISSUE 4319: [Guidelines] (Editorial) WS-RMP reference should be consistent with other references 
  http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4319 
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0059.html 
    

    
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