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Re: Minutes 2012-05-09

From: Kurt Cagle <kurt.cagle@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:21:05 -0400
Message-ID: <CALm0LSF7jp4sv54FUfsPWoApcrHdTLOozHwzYDqQFGXP6KMB8w@mail.gmail.com>
To: Philip Fennell <Philip.Fennell@marklogic.com>
Cc: Nick Van den Bleeken <Nick.Van.den.Bleeken@inventivegroup.com>, "public-forms@w3.org" <public-forms@w3.org>
1-617-761-6200 #xform

BTW, my apologies for not having attended lately - I've had a client that
insisted on scrum meetings at the same time for the last couple of months,
but that project wraps this week, so should be more in attendance.

Kurt Cagle



On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Philip Fennell <
Philip.Fennell@marklogic.com> wrote:

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> *From:* Kurt Cagle [mailto:kurt.cagle@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 09, 2012 5:17 PM
> *To:* Nick Van den Bleeken
> *Cc:* Philip Fennell; public-forms@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: Minutes 2012-05-09****
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> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Nick Van den Bleeken <
> Nick.Van.den.Bleeken@inventivegroup.com> wrote:****
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> http://www.w3.org/2012/05/09-forms-minutes.html ****
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> I also updated http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Minutes (added last 4
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> On 09 May 2012, at 13:30, Philip Fennell wrote:****
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> Regrets: None
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> Chair: Philip Fennell
> Start Time: 11:00am Eastern US (15:00Z, but back to 16:00Z during US
> Standard Time)
> Zakim Bridge +1.617.761.6200, conference 93676 ("XFORM")
> Duration: 60 minutes
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> Previous Minutes
> - http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Minutes
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> Minute takers rotation list:
> Uli, Kurt, Erik, Alain, Steven, John,  Nick,
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> Action Items and Tracker
> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/xforms/
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> Resolutions
> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Resolutions
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> =============
> AGENDA ITEMS:
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> * Minute taker
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> Future:
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> - XForms Basic 1.0
> Needs to be published as note.  Any changes needed to patent policy?
>
> - Fix our shortname issue
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0096.html
> http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-versions
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> Announcements
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> None
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> ----------------------------
> XForms Users Community Group
> ----------------------------
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> * Chair: Leigh?
>
> * Move XHTML+XForms to Community Group
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2012Mar/0041.html
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> * Implementation list moved to Community group
> http://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XForms_Implementations
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> * Community Group Mail
> - public-xformsusers
> - public-xformsusers-contrib
> - internal-xformsusers
>
> * Community Group Goals
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2012Mar/0031.html
>
> ===============================
> PROGRESS ON WORKING GROUP GOALS
> ===============================
> -------------------------------
> News and XForms Implementations
> -------------------------------
>
> --------------------
> W3C Document Reviews
> --------------------
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> ----------------------------
> XForms Implementor Questions
> ----------------------------
>
> + Reducing the amount of XForms markup by using more attributes instead of
> nested elements
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2012Feb/0030.html
> ACTION-1873 Steven Pemberton to analyze elements where @label @help @hint
> @alert and child text content for static value.
>
> ---------------------
> XForms Author Questions
> ---------------------
>
> - Submission namespace inclusion should recognize QName data nodes
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2009Nov/0002.html
> Needs owner
>
> - Repeats and web service submissions don't work well together
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Nov/0021.html
> Needs owner
>
> - C. M. Sperberg-McQueen observation on tabbed interfaces, focus, etc
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0055.html
> Discussed 2011-04-27 but
> still need someone to dis-entangle the issues and see what's 1.1/2.0/3.0
>
> + Move selected items from one select drop down to another one
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Aug/0001.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Aug/0001.html
> Is this done?
>
> + XForms initialization use case
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Feb/0015.html
>
> -----------------
> XForms 1.1 Issues
> -----------------
> - Improving the XForms 1.1 test suite
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Jun/0017.html
>
> - XForms 1.1 and XHTML+XForms1.1 XSD Schemas
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2009Nov/0003.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Mar/0001.html
> Owen Newnan has handed off his work
> Philip Fennel (was Leigh Klotz) to pick up
>
> --------------------------------------------
> Advancing XForms for HTML / XForms for XHTML
> --------------------------------------------
>
> + XHTML + XForms Validator
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Nov/0025.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Nov/0026.html
>
> - XHTML + XForms
> - Leigh has action to write goals document from Cambridge F2F minutes
> -- Goals
> -- Assertions
> -- Examples
> -- Test Suite
>
> - Rationalization of XForms for HTML, RDFa, and ARIA
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Mar/0044.html
>
> + XHTML + XForms Schema Update
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0031.html
> Needs directory created (2010?)
> Needs Leigh's updates for RNC schema agreement with errata
> C.M. Sperberg McQueen asks that consider taking out the IDRefs
>
> - XForms 1.1 and XHTML+XForms1.1 RelaxNG Schemas
> Possibly need to produce a strict schema (maximal restriction of known
> interoperable usage) and a lax schema (for extensions).  Vendors will
> customize the strict schema to show what their implementations support,
> but not customize the lax schema.
>
> - Update TheMatrix
> http://www.w3.org/QA/TheMatrix
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> ----------
> XForms 2.0
> ----------
>
> * XPath 2.0: on bindings to atomic values and the result of the
> element()/attribute() functions
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2012Apr/0010.html
>
>
> * XForms 2.0 Transform Module
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2012Apr/0000.html
>
>
> + Variables in XForms (Review Spec)
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2012Jan/0019.html
> Awaiting ACTION-1868: Erik Bruchez to summarize problems with error
> handling and three options for variable type handling.
> Awaiting ACTION-1869: Van den Bleeken to add note asking for
> implementation experience for variables in model.
>
> + Review load/@show='embed'; submission replace='embed'
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2012Feb/0022.html
> Awaiting ACTION-1872 from Leigh Klotz
>
> * Expand data model of ref to an arbitrary sequence
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Dec/0005.html
> Continue Discussion
>
> + Custom event context
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Dec/0006.html
> Awaiting ACTION-1875
>
> * Added optional id parameter to the context function
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Dec/0004.html
>
> + JSON Instances
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0006.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0007.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0008.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0009.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0010.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0011.html
> Most recent messages:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0028.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0029.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jun/0030.html
> Need to get wiki write up started.
>
> + transform function module
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Apr/0018.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Apr/0019.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011May/0014.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011May/0015.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011May/0021.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011May/0019.html
> and new
> http://docs.basex.org/wiki/XSLT_Functions
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> + Schematron validation (via transform)
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011May/0001.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011May/0002.html
>
> + label/@xml:lang, label/@model
> Discuss these remaining parts of Kurt Cagle's label/@for proposal.
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> + Constraint-based alerts and MIP name, type, etc.
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Jan/0028.html
>
> + Note 2 on XForms 1.1 computational dependency definition. Short-circuting
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Jan/0003.html
> are we done with this (ask John Boyer)
>
> + node creation functions
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0024.html
>
> * XForms 2.0 and XPath 2.0
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2012Feb/0014.html
>
> + Text Annotations
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Apr/0000.html
> Status report from Dan McCreary
>
> + Tree Controls
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Apr/0000.html
> Status report from Dan McCreary
>
> - Eventable and Presented
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Nov/0007.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Nov/0008.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Nov/0009.html
> Are we dropping this?
>
> + base64 encoding for HTTP Basic Authentication - a gap in the XForms
> function library? (RFE)
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0012.html
> Updated info:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0050.html
>
> + eBMS Submission
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0037.html
>
> - Making XForms 2.0 more RESTful: submission URI Templates and matrix URIs
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0020.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0033.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0039.html
>
> + Dealing with HTTP response entities when response code is not 200 series
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0006.html
>
> + XSLT Action Proposal from Claudius Teodorescu
> Old thread:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0036.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0027.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0000.html
> New action, now includes XProc
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Nov/0000.html
>
> * node creation function use cases
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Nov/0007.html
> John asks for node creation function use cases.
>
> * Bidirectional value conversion
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Nov/0027.html
>
> * Error Handling
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Nov/0027.html
>
> + Improved UI Events
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Oct/0010.html
> Status?
>
> + model/@src use cases
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0003.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0004.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0005.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0017.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0018.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0019.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0020.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Apr/0021.html
> Are we dropping this in favor of subforms?
>
> - Submit and Trigger Availability during (multiple) submissions
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Jan/0022.html
>
> - The case for multiple XForms labels in a control
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Dec/0027.html
>
> + XML Events: proposal to extend filtering on the event phase
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Jan/0018.html
>
> - Better upload facilities
> -- Instant upload submission to server
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Oct/0061.html
> -- Easier handling of multiple uploads
> -- Easier extraction of an upload back to the end-user context
> -- Easier request to display an upload
> -- Better control of metadata associated with upload data
> -- http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6/releasenotes/
> -- multiple upload control?
> -- download?
>
> + Access Control / Cross-site requests ; Uniform Messaging Policy, Level
> One
> http://www.w3.org/TR/access-control/
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Jan/0042.html
> Needs owner
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> XForms 3.0
> ----------
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> - XQuery+XForms
> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XQuery
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> - XBL
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> - For more, see:
> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Future_Goals
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