- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:04:04 -0800
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2002Nov/0006.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
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Agenda
1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is:
Steve Tuecke (fallbacks Don Wright, Glen Daniels, Kevin Liu, Tom
Jordahl, Jacek Kopecky)
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2. Approval of minutes of Oct 31 telcon [.1]. Kevin Liu had sent
regrets, which I missed.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0010.html
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3. Review of Action items.
? 2002-09-10: Gudge, jeffsch, roberto et al to write proposal
to replace message with complexType [due this
week]
FTF 2002-09-10: Gudge to provide summary of using W3C XML Schema
to wrap other type systems at an appropriate level
of abstraction.
FTF 2002-09-11: Jeffrey, DonM to define TCP binding.
FTF 2002-09-19: Joyce, Sandeep, Igor, Steve T, Sanjiva, Adi,
Roberto, Amy to form task force to prepare
presentation on adding pub/sub as first class to
WSDL 1.2.
? 2002-09-19: Sanjiva to write a Java binding.
FTF 2002-10-10: Gudge to prepare proposal for promoting operations
to the top level.
? 2002-10-17: Gudge and A. Lewis to make a proposal for
describing xs:import and (apparently) xs:schema
as "required" extensibility elements.
? 2002-10-24: Jacek to provide commentary/response to Arthur's
identification by URI proposal.
? 2002-10-31: Arthur will redo proposal to get rid of urn:, also
look at XPointer framework.
DONE [.1] 2002-10-31: Jonathan will look at normalized unique
namespaces.
DONE [.2] 2002-10-31: Phillipe will follow up on what we must do about a
media type.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0023.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0020.html
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4. Administrivia
a. Any last minute FTF logistical questions?
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5. FTF agenda [.1].
Besides the current discussion topics, we should have time to go
over some open issues. Here are a set of candidates I came up with from
the issues list at [.2]. Champions appreciated!
Type system issues:
issue-allow-nonxml-typesystems
Allow non-XML type systems?
issue-clarify-type-and-element
Clarify use of type= and element= in part with XML Schema experts.
Naming issues:
issue-operation-name-uniqueness
Need to be able to distinguish between operations with the same
NCName in different portTypes
issue-fault-name-uniqueness
Should faults be named with QNames?
issue-toplevel-element-name-uniqueness
Should all top-level elements' names be unique across the
target namespace?
Part 2 issues:
Are there any issues we can tackle prior to the property/feature
discussion?
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2002Nov/0005.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html
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6. New Issues. Merged issues list [.1].
None found.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html
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7. Managing extensions [.1]. Is a registry called for? Philippe's
summary of a related issue in WS Arch [.2], about WS-Security defining
WSDL extensions [.3].
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0011.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0027.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-arch/2002Nov/0006.html
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8. WSDL media type registration. Mark Baker's conclusion [.1]. Tag
finding [.2], WG process guideline [.3].
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0009.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2002/0129-mime
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/06/registering-mediatype
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9. Equivalence of Services [.1].
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0151.html
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10. Importing Schema into WSDL
Two alternative proposals. Two elements [.1] or one [.2].
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0067.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0114.html
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11. Identification of a Service [.1] / Arthur's [.2] identification
proposal [.3]. Comparison with NUNs [.4].
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2002Oct/0017.html
(members only)
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0084.html
[.3]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/att-0084/01-URI-
References.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0023.html
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12. A slice at a proposal for SOAP features/properties in WSDL [.1].
Canon's change requests [.2]. Amy's comments [.3]. Tibco proposal
(revised) [.4]. Tibco SOAP email binding [.5].
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0004.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0080.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0104.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0149.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0126.html
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13. Rationale for dropping the <soap:body use=...> attribute [.1]
Proposal from Jacek on better describing the extensibility
mechanism to support other languages. [.2]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0054.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0040.html
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14. BindingType proposal from Kevin [.1].
Awaiting further work on Part 2 AM.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Aug/0009.html
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15. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1].
Jean-Jacques proposal at [.2].
Jacek's addendum at [.3].
Dependent upon Glen's feature/property proposal.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x2
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0050.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0056.html
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16. Issue 28: transport='uri' [.1]
Dependent upon Glen's feature/property proposal.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x28
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17. HTTP Binding Issues (6a, 41)
Jeffrey recommends no change [.1].
Sanjiva is mulling this over [.2].
Dependent upon Glen's feature/property proposal.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jun/0102.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0067.html
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18. Issue 25: Interaction between W3C XML Schema and SOAP Data Model
Gudge's explains at [.1], Roberto's options at [.2].
Waiting for more detail in ACM?
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jun/0186.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0071.html
- Jonathan
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