- From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
- Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:35:40 -0800
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Agenda: WS-Policy WG distributed meeting 27 - 2007-02-14 The phone number to use for the WS-Policy WG F2F is documented on the WG's administrative home page: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#phone Participants are invited to join IRC channel #ws-policy as documented on the WG's administrative home page. Please register with Zakim: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html 1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair a) Scribe List: Charlton Barreto (Secretary for Feb 14) Dimitar Angelov Sanjiva Weerawarana Ruchith Fernando Jeffrey Crump Tom Jordahl Vladislav Bezrukov ---------------------- Jeff Mischkinsky Abbie Barbir Ashok Malhotra Sanka Samaranayake David Orchard Yakov Sverdlov Ümit Yalçinalp Asir Vedamuthu Maryann Hondo Dale Moberg Chris Ferris Mark Little Monica Martin Glen Daniels William Henry Toufic Boubez Frederick Hirsch Felix Sasaki Prasad Yendluri Anthony Nadalin Daniel Roth Fabian Ritzmann Sergey Beryozkin b) Scribe FAQ (Updated) Member only: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html 2. Review and approval of telcon minutes, Chair a) Review and approval of 2007-02-07 minutes Draft minutes (member only): http://www.w3.org/2007/02/07-ws-policy-minutes.html Status: See note from Chris for correction: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Feb/0010.html 3. Future WG meetings, Chair a) Next distributed meeting is Wed Feb 21 - Chair is Chris. b) Future meetings http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#meetings c) Tue-Thu Mar 13-15 F2F meeting in Santa Clara hosted by webMethods http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Jan/0000.html http://www.w3.org/2007/03/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html Note: Please register as early as possible. d) Wed-Fri May 23-25 F2F meeting in Ottawa hosted by Nortel http://www.w3.org/2007/05/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html e) Tue-Thu Jul 24-26 F2F meeting in Dublin hosted by Iona http://www.w3.org/2007/07/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html Note: Logistics page is not yet available. ACTION-189 William Henry to put a proposal page for the July F2F in Ireland 4. Editorial team report Current Editors drafts: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/#drafts a) WS-Policy Candidate Recommendation Editor's drafts, Editors http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0208.html Status: WG members have approved these drafts for transition to CR. b) Updated CR drafts, Editors http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0052.html c) Updated interop scenarios document, Editors http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/interop/WS-Policy-Scenarios.pdf 5. Review action items, Chair Open action items: Member only: http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/open ACTION-189 William Henry to ut a proposal page for the July F2F in Ireland ACTION-201 William Henry to a concrete proposal for 4255 and 4253 ACTION-204 Chris Ferris to create test cases for xml:base ACTION-211 Prasad Yendluri to create test cases for features 37 and 38 on UDDI ACTION-213 Chris Ferris to find an owner for feature 22 ACTION-214 Paul Cotton to ask Ashok if he takes on feature 23 DONE but Paul has not heard back from Ashok. ACTION-216 Umit to propose text for primer or guideline for issue 4212 ACTION-218 Umit and Maryann to provide text for subject attachment Extensibility in guidelines ACTION-219 Maryann to work with Asir and Umit to review the changed WS-A Metadata document Due: 2007-02-14 ACTION-220 Chris Ferris to work with Felix and Paul to ensure that the namespace document is updated accordingly when we publish the CR drafts DONE. Revised documents are ready. ACTION-221 Editors to start thinking about converting the document at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0143.html DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0037.html 6. Liaison items a) Feedback to WS-Addressing WG on Web Services Addressing 1.0 - Metadata specification http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Feb/0005.html ACTION-219 Maryann to work with Asir and Umit to review the changed WS-A Metadata document Due: 2007-02-14 7. WS-Policy Call for Implementations, Chair a) W3C Process 7.4.3 Call for Implementations (aka Candidate Recommendation) http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#cfi Status: our CFI must cover the following items: i) the Working Group SHOULD include a report of present and expected implementations as part of the request. Status: As discussed on Feb 7: Will be participating: IBM, MSFT and WS02 Maybe's include: Webmethods, Axway, Iona Paul and Chris chasing other external contacts Results of previous interop: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Jun/att-0010/ws-policy-workshop-minutes-April-2006.doc ii) the Working Group MAY identify specific features of the technical report as being "features at risk" Asir's note: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0022.html Status: WG members to consider the proposed three features "at risk" and come prepared to nail down the final list for the transition Request at the Feb 14 meeting. iii) The request to the Director to advance a technical report to Candidate Recommendation MUST indicate whether the Working Group expects to satisfy any Proposed Recommendation entrance criteria beyond the default requirements Default PR criteria are: Shown that each feature of the technical report has been implemented. Preferably, the Working Group SHOULD be able to demonstrate two interoperable implementations of each feature. Status: We discussed the prospect of raising the bar on all non-at-risk features to 4 implementations (or more) with 2 for the features at risk. Members were encouraged to think about whether this is an appropriate "bar" to set for WS-Policy CFI exit criteria. iv) The announcement MUST indicate a minimal duration, before which the Working Group MUST NOT request a Call for Review of a Proposed Recommendation; this minimal duration is designed to allow time for comment. Status: members were asked to consider the end of May (following the May F2F) as the earliest possible date to transition to PR. v) The announcement SHOULD also include the Working Group's estimate of the time expected to gather sufficient implementation data. Status: The WG charter timeline predicted a July 2007 PR. Members were asked whether using this date as the expected duration of the CFI period was acceptable. 9. CR interop scenarios and testing Note: Please use bugzilla for test case issues, including proposals for missing test cases. a) WS-Policy Features and Interop Scenarios, Asir http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0143.html b) Updated Interop Scenarios, IBM and MSFT http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0008.html c) Updated interop scenarios document, Editors http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0037.html d) ACTION-203 Felix will create test cases for xml:id DONE [NEW ISSUE] 4301: Test case for xml:id http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4301 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0010.html e) ACTION-204 Chris will create test cases for xml:base f) ACTION-209 Glen Daniels will create test cases for the policy MIME type DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0001.html g) UDDI scenario and test cases, Prasad http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0196.html ACTION-211 Prasad to create test cases for features 37 and 38 on UDDI h) Feature 42, Skip ACTION-212 Mark Temple-Raston to determine the UDDI scenarios CitiGroup can cover DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0029.html Status: Paul cannot open the ZIP file attachment. i) Adding negative test cases, Chris F http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0199.html j) Outstanding test cases, Chair ACTION-213 Chris Ferris to find an owner for feature 22 ACTION-214 Paul Cotton to ask Ashok if he takes on feature 23 k) Editor's questions about interop scenarios http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0037.html l) Other interop scenario discussion items 10. WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers a) Issue 4251 Change syntax for some WSDL 1.1 identifiers http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4251 Ashok's proposal: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0169.html David's correction: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0180.html Status: At the F2F meeting WG members asked for more time to consider this matter. 11. Primer issues a) [NEW ISSUE] 4103 Questionable use of Contoso Ltd in Primer, Chris Ferris http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4103 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0077.html See thread ending at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0102.html Status: Asir has action 183 ACTION-183 OPEN Research ownership of "Contoso" name/trademark. Asir Vedamuthu 2007-01-10 See email from Chris Ferris: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0033.html b) Issue 4263 - Add text to ignorable discussion on passing ignorable Updated proposal from Monica: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0013.html Email discussion: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0012.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0011.html c) [NEW ISSUE] 4212, 4213 Use of empty policy for nesting should be exemplified http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0100.html ACTION-216 Umit to propose text for primer or guideline for issue 4212 d) [NEW ISSUE] 4255: Section 2.9 should also explain basic attaching http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4255 e) Issue 4288 - Primer: Absence of Policy Assertions (editorial), Monica http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0214.html ACTION-217 Maryann and Monica to amend issue 4288 DONE: Proposal from Monica: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0014.html f) Issue 4300 - Misue of best practises in primer, Umit http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4300 12. Guidelines issues a) ISSUE 3987: Section 5.9 - Lifecycle of Assertions?, Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3987 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0111.html b) ISSUE 4035: [ Guidelines] Section 2 should account for interop impact of non-wire or one-party assertions and ignorable property http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4035 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0007.html c) ISSUE 4072: Statements not relevant to assertion design, Dan http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4072 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0046.html Fabian's response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0063.html d) ISSUE 3979: Clarify the guidance in section 5.9.1 on referencing policy expressions, Dan Roth http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3979 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0104.html ACTION-164 Try to write up alternative text that takes into consideration today\\'s discussion on issue 3979 DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0071.html e) ISSUE 4073: Free standing statements, Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4073 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0049.html f) ISSUE 4074: Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues, Dan http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html See exchange between Dan and Umit at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0085.html g) ISSUE 4040: [Guidelines] Update guidelines to include discussion of ignorable, Frederick http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4040 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0025.html h) ISSUE 3978: Clarify if Section 7 on defining new policy attachment mechanisms is necessary, Dan Roth http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3978 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0102.html Maryann's response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0131.html i) ISSUE 3989: Suggested format for the Guidelines document., Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3989 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0113.html Maryann's response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0132.html Asir: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0139.html Umit: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0141.html j) ISSUE 3988: Section 8 doesn't illustrate how to design an assertion., Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3988 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0112.html Email discussion thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0000.html k) ISSUE 4074: [Guidelines] Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues, Dan http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html l) ISSUE 3981: What is the relevance of Section 4 'Authoring Styles' to policy assertion design?, Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3981 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0107.html Proposal from Umit: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0000.html m) ISSUE 3990: Content in Section 5.7 is unclear, Dan Roth http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3990 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0114.html n) [NEW ISSUE] 4198: Policy assertion semantics independent of attachment mechanism http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4198 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0083.html ACTION-218 OPEN And Maryann to provide text for subject attachment Extensibility in guidelines Umit Yalcinalp 2007-02-07 o) [NEW ISSUE] 4262 Use of @wsp:optional and @wsp:Ignorable on t... http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4262 p) ACTION-192 OPEN Give proposal for changes resulting from 4142 Maryann Hondo 2007-01-23 DONE http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0003.html Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3 Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329 mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com
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