Re: MiniSKOS update

Hi all:

I personally think that ConceptCode is close enough to justify deployment, and that the harm in looking further for a better term is bigger than the potential loss by confusion etc. during the usage of ConceptCode.

Also, I am pretty sure that many reserved words in many Web languages have worked well despite not being so thoroughly optimized.

Are H1, div, time in HTML really good names? We could argue ;-) (in particular with time being used for dates and datetime etc.).

Martin

 
On Nov 20, 2013, at 8:48 PM, Dan Brickley wrote:

> On 20 November 2013 19:20, Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm having trouble to understand how things like "Wimbledon Tennis
>> Tournament", "Roger Federer", "Tennis" are ConceptCodes, in particular, not
>> sure where "code" comes from here, or help. This won't make as much sense as Topic for webmasters.
> 
> On the other hand, looking at http://schema.org/JobPosting 's
> http://schema.org/occupationalCategory which cites
> http://www.onetcenter.org/taxonomy.html whose values look like this:
> 
> 11-9013.00 Farmers, Ranchers, and Other Agricultural Managers
> Plan, direct, or coordinate the management or operation of farms,
> ranches, greenhouses, aquacultural operations, nurseries, timber
> tracts, or other agricultural establishments. May hire, train, and
> supervise farm workers or contract for services to carry out the
> day-to-day activities of the managed operation. May engage in or
> supervise planting, cultivating, harvesting, and financial and
> marketing activities.
> 
> 11-9013.01 Nursery and Greenhouse Managers
> Plan, organize, direct, control, and coordinate activities of workers
> engaged in propagating, cultivating, and harvesting horticultural
> specialties, such as trees, shrubs, flowers, mushrooms, and other
> plants.
> 
> 11-9013.02 Farm and Ranch Managers
> Plan, direct, or coordinate the management or operation of farms,
> ranches, greenhouses, aquacultural operations, nurseries, timber
> tracts, or other agricultural establishments. May hire, train, or
> supervise farm workers or contract for services to carry out the
> day-to-day activities of the managed operation. May engage in or
> supervise planting, cultivating, harvesting, financial, or marketing
> activities.
> 
> These are much more like controlled (enumerated) codes for areas of
> human activity. I can live with "Topic" since you could imagine a book
> being catalogued as being 'about' Farm & Ranch Managers, ... but
> that's not the general intended use of this coding scheme nor it's
> actual use in a job posting.
> 
> The 'code' aspect comes from the fact that these are typically
> explicit enumerated lists managed as part of a system. It's not "Farm
> and Ranch Managers" in general, but the onetcentre's taxonomy's
> explicitly coded '11-9013.02: Farm and Ranch Managers' notion.
> 
> That said, Peter Mika just raised a similar concern, suggesting that
> e.g. "Arts & Entertainment" isn't really a code. My counter-view is
> that ""Arts & Entertainment"" in some specific news taxonomy
> identified by a standard URI *is* reasonably thought of as a code.
> 
> By this point, it's clear that we won't find a name that everyone is
> comfortable with.
> 
>> What is the difference between the 'name' and the 'codeValue' of a ConceptCode. Maybe some examples would help?
> 
> That is a reasonable question. It would also have been a reasonable
> question to ask about the http://schema.org/codeValue of a
> http://schema.org/MedicalCode, but that was hidden away in the medical
> vocabulary where people didn't notice. In many cases it might be the
> same. In some, e.g. numeric subject vocabularies like UDC and DDC, you
> could have a human-oriented 'name' and a numeric 'codeValue'. There is
> also http://schema.org/alternateName to play with now, for alternate
> strings.
> 
> For example in UDC, http://udcdata.info/064347
> 
> http://udcdata.info/064347
> Notation: 693
> Caption: Masonry and related building crafts
> Including: Plasterer's trade. Finishing work. Tiling. Paving. Asphalt
> work. Composite constructions
> See also: 666.9Gypsum, lime and cement industries. Hard-setting
> materials. Plasters and compositions. Mortar and concrete
> Broader class:  69  Building (construction) trade. Building materials.
> Building practice and procedure
> 
> The '693' could be the codeValue, and the caption "Masonry and related
> building craft" it's name. In UDC's SKOS these are skos:notation and
> skos:prefLabel currently.
> 
> Looking at the earlier example, I'd suggest similarly
> codeValue="11-9013.02",  name="Farm and Ranch Managers".
> 
> Dan
> 

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