Re: MiniSKOS update

On 20 November 2013 19:20, Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm having trouble to understand how things like "Wimbledon Tennis
> Tournament", "Roger Federer", "Tennis" are ConceptCodes, in particular, not
> sure where "code" comes from here, or help. This won't make as much sense as Topic for webmasters.

On the other hand, looking at http://schema.org/JobPosting 's
http://schema.org/occupationalCategory which cites
http://www.onetcenter.org/taxonomy.html whose values look like this:

11-9013.00 Farmers, Ranchers, and Other Agricultural Managers
Plan, direct, or coordinate the management or operation of farms,
ranches, greenhouses, aquacultural operations, nurseries, timber
tracts, or other agricultural establishments. May hire, train, and
supervise farm workers or contract for services to carry out the
day-to-day activities of the managed operation. May engage in or
supervise planting, cultivating, harvesting, and financial and
marketing activities.

11-9013.01 Nursery and Greenhouse Managers
Plan, organize, direct, control, and coordinate activities of workers
engaged in propagating, cultivating, and harvesting horticultural
specialties, such as trees, shrubs, flowers, mushrooms, and other
plants.

11-9013.02 Farm and Ranch Managers
Plan, direct, or coordinate the management or operation of farms,
ranches, greenhouses, aquacultural operations, nurseries, timber
tracts, or other agricultural establishments. May hire, train, or
supervise farm workers or contract for services to carry out the
day-to-day activities of the managed operation. May engage in or
supervise planting, cultivating, harvesting, financial, or marketing
activities.

These are much more like controlled (enumerated) codes for areas of
human activity. I can live with "Topic" since you could imagine a book
being catalogued as being 'about' Farm & Ranch Managers, ... but
that's not the general intended use of this coding scheme nor it's
actual use in a job posting.

The 'code' aspect comes from the fact that these are typically
explicit enumerated lists managed as part of a system. It's not "Farm
and Ranch Managers" in general, but the onetcentre's taxonomy's
explicitly coded '11-9013.02: Farm and Ranch Managers' notion.

That said, Peter Mika just raised a similar concern, suggesting that
e.g. "Arts & Entertainment" isn't really a code. My counter-view is
that ""Arts & Entertainment"" in some specific news taxonomy
identified by a standard URI *is* reasonably thought of as a code.

By this point, it's clear that we won't find a name that everyone is
comfortable with.

> What is the difference between the 'name' and the 'codeValue' of a ConceptCode. Maybe some examples would help?

That is a reasonable question. It would also have been a reasonable
question to ask about the http://schema.org/codeValue of a
http://schema.org/MedicalCode, but that was hidden away in the medical
vocabulary where people didn't notice. In many cases it might be the
same. In some, e.g. numeric subject vocabularies like UDC and DDC, you
could have a human-oriented 'name' and a numeric 'codeValue'. There is
also http://schema.org/alternateName to play with now, for alternate
strings.

For example in UDC, http://udcdata.info/064347

http://udcdata.info/064347
Notation: 693
Caption: Masonry and related building crafts
Including: Plasterer's trade. Finishing work. Tiling. Paving. Asphalt
work. Composite constructions
See also: 666.9Gypsum, lime and cement industries. Hard-setting
materials. Plasters and compositions. Mortar and concrete
Broader class:  69  Building (construction) trade. Building materials.
Building practice and procedure

The '693' could be the codeValue, and the caption "Masonry and related
building craft" it's name. In UDC's SKOS these are skos:notation and
skos:prefLabel currently.

Looking at the earlier example, I'd suggest similarly
codeValue="11-9013.02",  name="Farm and Ranch Managers".

Dan

Received on Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:48:33 UTC