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Re: Agenda, 12 February 2004 WS Desc telcon

From: Umit Yalcinalp <umit.yalcinalp@oracle.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:56:12 -0800
Message-ID: <402ADD3C.2010502@oracle.com>
To: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Cc: WS Description List <www-ws-desc@w3.org>

Jonathan,

I have a question about our agenda:

Below item (19) proposal for adding compositors is listed under 
"Following items pending additional input". I am wondering what this means.

Thanks,

--umit



Jonathan Marsh wrote:

>[First draft, please suggest rearrangements if you want to leave early.]
>
>0.  Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
>
>See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
>information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
>
>If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
>before the start of the telcon.
>
>[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2004Feb/0018.html
>[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
>[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>Agenda
>
>1.  Assign scribe.  Lucky minute taker for this week is:
>      Igor Sedukhin (fallbacks: Jeffrey Schlimmer, Prasad Yendluri, 
>      Dietmar Gaertner, Umit Yalcinalp, Jean-Jacques Moreau, 
>      Sanjiva Weerawarana, Youenn Fablet, Youenn Fablet, David Orchard)
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>2.  Approval of minutes:
>  - Jan 22nd telcon ?
>  - Jan 28-30 FTF [.2, .3, .4] and Summary [.5]
>  - Feb 5th telcon [.6]
>
>[.1] ?
>[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0010.html
>[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0012.html
>[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0011.html
>[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0013.html
>[.6]
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/att-0035/040205-
>ws-desc-irc.htm
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>3.  Review of Action items [.1].
>?         2003-09-18: Marsh to review the QA operational
>                      guidelines.
>?         2003-11-04: Glen to write up rationale for removing headers 
>                      (and?) proposal for a generic header-adding
>                      property/feature.
>?         2004-01-08: Pauld to write up examples of schemas for the
>                      Primer.
>?         2004-01-28: Philippe and JMarsh will look at the ipr for 
>                      test suite.
>?         2004-01-28: Sanjiva to consistify the @name attributes.
>?         2004-01-29: David Booth to suggest improvements to the 
>                      spec clarifying "WSDL processor".
>?         2004-01-30: DaveO to write up a proposal for augmenting 
>                      schema information to enable versioned data.
>?         2004-01-30: DavidO to write request to schema group to 
>                      address the issue of schema not supporting 
>                      ignoring extended content.
>?         2004-01-30: Tom to write proposal on version attribute 
>                      (modeled after schema's).
>?         2004-01-30: Umit to write a proposal on @wsdlLocation
>?         2004-01-30: Jonathan to investigate typo in last f2f 
>                      meeting on _S_erviceType.
>DONE      2004-01-30: Issues list editor to retitle Issues 113 and 
>                      91.
>?         2004-01-30: Philippe to draft a note for the group around 
>                      safe operations.
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>4.  Administrivia
>  a. Upcoming FTFs
>     - March 4-5, Cannes-Mandelieu, France [.1]
>       Joint session with the TAG, XMLP?
>  b. Web Architecture Document [.2, .3] review:
>       Volunteers so far: Jacek, Bijan, Jonathan
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2003/08/allgroupoverview.html
>[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0029.html
>[.3] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-webarch-20031209/
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>5.  Task Force Status.
> a. Properties and Features (dormant)
> b. Patterns (dormant)
> c. Attributes (dormant)
> d. Media type description (dormant)
> e. QA & Testing
>  - Response to comments on QA Spec Guidelines [.2]
>  - Implement QA Operational guidelines? [.3]
>
>[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0000.html
>[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0074.html
>[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>6.  New Issues.  Issues list [.1].
>  - Issues 137, 138 already added (see below)
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html 
>[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0137.html 
>[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0022.html
>[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0034.html
>
>Note that I am not treating the following thread as an issue yet:
>  - Reuse faults by ref (Daveo) [.5]
>I'm waiting for confirmation from DaveO that this is not obsoleted by
>FTF decisions.
>
> [.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0140.html
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>7.  Ratifying renaming decisions from FTF.
>  FTF produced proposals with general acclaim to rename the following
>  constructs:
>  - Issue 118: s/@message/@element/ [.2]
>  - Issue 119: s/@messageReference/@label/ [.3]
>  - Issue 116: s/A,B/IN,OUT/ (already closed?) [.4]
>
>[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0011.html
>[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x118
>[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x119
>[.4] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x116
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>8.  Issue 137: Properties should not be limited to simple types [.1, .2]
>
>  - Proposed resolution: Change the xs:anySimpleType in section 2.7.2.3 
>    to xs:anyType, and appropriately rewording the text in table 2-7.
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x137
>[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0034.html
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>9.  Issue 130: Need async request/response HTTP binding [.1]
>  - Two formulations at [.2, .3]
>  - STATUS: Need to gauge interest, action someone to refine the
>    pattern.
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x130
>[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0192.html
>[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0195.html
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>10. Issue 138: Second level xs:import [.1, .2]
>  - Proposed resolution [.3]
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html 
>[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0137.html 
>[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0022.html
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>11. Issue 120: Operation Name feature proposal [.1, .2]
>      Mark Baker had some comments [.3, .4].
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x120
>[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0082.html
>[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0173.html
>[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0175.html
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>12. Issue 135: WSDL Specification readability [.1]
>    "The WSDL specs contains a lot of formulaic text, making them 
>    harder to read than they could be. A lot of the infoset related 
>    data could be easily moved into an appendix. This would make the 
>    bulk of the spec just as informative and a lot easier to read.  
>    Could we move some of the formulaic text to an appendix?"
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x135
>
>==================================================================
>Following items pending additional input:
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>13. Issue #96 [.1]
>    STATUS: Discussion scheduled for 2/21 telcon.
>    Jean-Jacques to re-present the concrete issue.
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x96
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>13. Issue #104 Appendix E cleanup (using alternate type systems) [.1]
>  - Bijan's review [.2].
>  - Might want to add OWL support to appendix E
>    STATUS: Awaiting concrete proposal from Jacek and Bijan.
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x104 
>[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0136.html
>[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0182.html
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>14. Issue 109: WSDL versioning [.1]
>  - Use cases (DavidO) [.2]
>  - Requirements (PaulD) [.3]
>    STATUS: Awaiting 3 DaveO actions, 1 TomJ action.
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x109
>[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0070.html
>[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0076.html
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>15. Issue 79 [.1]
>    STATUS: Dependent on
>    ACTION: David Booth to suggest improvements to the spec clarifying 
>            "WSDL processor".
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x79
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>16. Issue 106: Using RDF in WSDL [.1, 2].
>    STATUS: Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft.
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x106 
>[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>17. Issue 92: Layering message patterns [.1]
>    STATUS: Schedule for FTF.
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x92
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>18. Issue 112: Headers at the abstract level [.1]
>  - Headers as first-class citizens [.2]
>    STATUS: discuss offline until FTF.
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x112
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>19. Issue 134: Proposal for adding Compositors [.1]
>    STATUS: Schedule for FTF.
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x112
>
>==================================================================
>Other Part 1/Part 2 issues:
>  111: Simplified syntax?  
>  114: Name of wsoap:fault/@name  
>  117: Marking operations as 'safe'  
>  121: Broken resolution of NCNAME or QNAME 
>  122: messageReference semantics on binding 
>  123: Requiring all operations to be bound 
>  124: Semantics of mandatory properties and features 
>  125: Make messageReference mandatory 
>  126: Confusion between binding and element names 
>  127: Behavior if import/include fails 
>  128: Two imports for the same namespace illegal? 
>  129: Allow multiple values for import/include locations 
>  131: Treatment of optional extensions 
>  132: Message attribute optional 
>  133: Why aren't two input/output elements allowed to share the 
>       same @element value? 
>  136: Add in-optional-out MEP 
>
>==================================================================
>Following items pending completion of Parts 1 and 2:
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>20. Issue 32: Support for SOAP 1.1 [.1].
>  - Awaiting announcement of updated charter.
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x32
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>21. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4]
>  - Jacek's synthesis [.5].
>  - Awaiting description from Philippe showing how properties or
>    extensions can be used to annotate the WSDL with RESTful 
>    properties.  Ask Mark for a definitive list of those properties 
>    so we can consider how to associate them with property URIs or 
>    namespaces.
>  - Marking WSDL operations as "safe" (DaveO/TAG) [.6, .7]
>
>[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x64
>[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html
>[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html
>[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html
>[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0095.html
>[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0104.html
>[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0021.html
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Umit Yalcinalp                                  
Consulting Member of Technical Staff
ORACLE
Phone: +1 650 607 6154                          
Email: umit.yalcinalp@oracle.com
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