- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:33:57 -0800
- To: "Web Services Description" <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2004Jan/0012.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
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Agenda
1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is:
Erik Ackerman, (fallbacks: Igor Sedukhin, Adi Sakala,
Amy Lewis, Arthur Ryman, Prasad Yendluri,
Dietmar Gaertner, Tom Jordahl, Jeffrey Schlimmer)
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2. Approval of minutes:
- Jan 8th telcon [.1]. Late regrets from Arthur.
[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/att-0029/minutes
_20040108.htm
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3. Review of Action items [.1].
? 2003-09-18: Marsh to review the QA operational
guidelines.
? 2003-10-09: Bijan to look into message extensibility
Issues (Appendix E, Jacek's review) wrt RDF data,
and discuss with Jacek.
? 2003-11-03: Umit (with help of Glen) will write up a proposal
for normative dispatching feature.
? 2003-11-04: Glen to write up rationale for removing headers
(and?) proposal for a generic header-adding
property/feature.
? 2003-01-08: Editors assign an issue number to Paul's issue
about
examples of vectors and arrays in the primer.
? 2003-01-08: Pauld to write up examples of schemas for the
primer
? 2003-01-08: JacekK to formulate concrete proposal to remove
style attribute and handle RPC hints using normal
extensibility.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
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4. Administrivia
a. Upcoming FTFs
- January 26-30, Bedford, MA (Sonic) [.1]
WSArch 26-29(noon)
WSDesc 28(noon)-30
Please register! [.2]
Joint session topics: Usage scenarios document (NOTE?)
- March 3-4, Cannes-Mandelieu, France [.3]
Joint session with the TAG?
b. Web Architecture Document [.4, .5] review:
Volunteers so far: Jacek, Bijan, Jonathan
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2003/12/ws-desc-charter
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34650/WSAD0401/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2003/08/allgroupoverview.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0029.html
[.5] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-webarch-20031209/
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5. Task Force Status.
a. Properties and Features (dormant)
b. Patterns (dormant)
c. Attributes (dormant)
d. QA & Testing
- Response to comments on QA Spec Guidelines [.2]
- Implement QA Operational guidelines? [.3]
e. Joint TF on media type description.
- mailing list [.4]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0074.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0000.html
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6. New Issues. Merged issues list [.1].
- Versioning (Paul) [.2]
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/ysgl
(redirects to http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html)
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0016.html
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7. Two logical WSDL documents describing the same service
- Will plan to see if we have a majority at the FTF to reopen the
issue
of single interface per service. Let the thread continue!
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0045.html
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8. Abstract Faults
- Proposal (Paul) [.1] as modified by [.2]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0046.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0071.html
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9. Issue fault-name-uniqueness [.1]: Should faults be named with
QNames?
In WSDL 1.1 fault names are NCNames which are not unique within
portType even. This leads to a cumbersome mechanism to uniquely
identify a fault.
- Solved by Abstract Faults proposal?
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/ysgl#xissue%20fault%20name%20uniqueness
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10. Issue 85: HTTP binding options [.1]
- option 1: drop HTTP binding
- option 2: input becomes POST body and output is POST response
- option 3: option 2 + GET goes to http:address URL and output is
GET response
- option 4: option 3 + rules to move all parameters into query
parameters for GET binding with MEP=in-out and
@style=rpc
- option 5: option 4 + URL replacement (not just query params)
Latest proposal: [.3] and issues [.4]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0048.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x85
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0051.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0059.html
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Following items pending additional input:
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11. Issue #102: Schemas in imported WSDL [.1]
- Seems to be agreement on the existing behavior as described by
Gudge and Amy. Still outstanding: do we add note along the lines
of Glen's suggestion: put text in the spec to the effect that WSDL
processors SHOULD make schema namespaces embedded in the <types>
sections of imported WSDLs available to their schema processors for
xs:import where possible.
Specese sample from Glen [.2]. (FTF)
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0109.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0017.html
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12. Issue #103: Proposal for combining the two attribute operation
styles
to one (Jacek) [.1]
Deferred pending final disposition of attribute styles.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0164.html
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13. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4]
- Jacek's synthesis [.5].
- Awaiting description from Philippe showing how properties or
extensions can be used to annotate the WSDL with RESTful
properties. Ask Mark for a definitive list of those properties
so we can consider how to associate them with property URIs or
namespaces.
- Marking WSDL operations as "safe" (DaveO/TAG) [.6, .7]
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x64
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0095.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0104.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0021.html
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14. Issue #104: Appendix E cleanup [.1]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0136.html
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15. Using RDF in WSDL [.1].
Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html
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