- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:28:37 -0800
- To: "WS Description List" <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
[First draft, please suggest rearrangements if you want to leave early.] 0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]: See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters. If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon. [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2004Feb/0018.html [.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/ [.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin -------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda 1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is: Igor Sedukhin (fallbacks: Jeffrey Schlimmer, Prasad Yendluri, Dietmar Gaertner, Umit Yalcinalp, Jean-Jacques Moreau, Sanjiva Weerawarana, Youenn Fablet, Youenn Fablet, David Orchard) -------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Approval of minutes: - Jan 22nd telcon ? - Jan 28-30 FTF [.2, .3, .4] and Summary [.5] - Feb 5th telcon [.6] [.1] ? [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0010.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0012.html [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0011.html [.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0013.html [.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/att-0035/040205- ws-desc-irc.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Review of Action items [.1]. ? 2003-09-18: Marsh to review the QA operational guidelines. ? 2003-11-04: Glen to write up rationale for removing headers (and?) proposal for a generic header-adding property/feature. ? 2004-01-08: Pauld to write up examples of schemas for the Primer. ? 2004-01-28: Philippe and JMarsh will look at the ipr for test suite. ? 2004-01-28: Sanjiva to consistify the @name attributes. ? 2004-01-29: David Booth to suggest improvements to the spec clarifying "WSDL processor". ? 2004-01-30: DaveO to write up a proposal for augmenting schema information to enable versioned data. ? 2004-01-30: DavidO to write request to schema group to address the issue of schema not supporting ignoring extended content. ? 2004-01-30: Tom to write proposal on version attribute (modeled after schema's). ? 2004-01-30: Umit to write a proposal on @wsdlLocation ? 2004-01-30: Jonathan to investigate typo in last f2f meeting on _S_erviceType. DONE 2004-01-30: Issues list editor to retitle Issues 113 and 91. ? 2004-01-30: Philippe to draft a note for the group around safe operations. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions -------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Administrivia a. Upcoming FTFs - March 4-5, Cannes-Mandelieu, France [.1] Joint session with the TAG, XMLP? b. Web Architecture Document [.2, .3] review: Volunteers so far: Jacek, Bijan, Jonathan [.1] http://www.w3.org/2003/08/allgroupoverview.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0029.html [.3] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-webarch-20031209/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ 5. Task Force Status. a. Properties and Features (dormant) b. Patterns (dormant) c. Attributes (dormant) d. Media type description (dormant) e. QA & Testing - Response to comments on QA Spec Guidelines [.2] - Implement QA Operational guidelines? [.3] [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0000.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0074.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 6. New Issues. Issues list [.1]. - Issues 137, 138 already added (see below) [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0137.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0022.html [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0034.html Note that I am not treating the following thread as an issue yet: - Reuse faults by ref (Daveo) [.5] I'm waiting for confirmation from DaveO that this is not obsoleted by FTF decisions. [.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0140.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 7. Ratifying renaming decisions from FTF. FTF produced proposals with general acclaim to rename the following constructs: - Issue 118: s/@message/@element/ [.2] - Issue 119: s/@messageReference/@label/ [.3] - Issue 116: s/A,B/IN,OUT/ (already closed?) [.4] [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0011.html [.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x118 [.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x119 [.4] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x116 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 8. Issue 137: Properties should not be limited to simple types [.1, .2] - Proposed resolution: Change the xs:anySimpleType in section 2.7.2.3 to xs:anyType, and appropriately rewording the text in table 2-7. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x137 [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0034.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 9. Issue 130: Need async request/response HTTP binding [.1] - Two formulations at [.2, .3] - STATUS: Need to gauge interest, action someone to refine the pattern. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x130 [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0192.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0195.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 10. Issue 138: Second level xs:import [.1, .2] - Proposed resolution [.3] [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0137.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Feb/0022.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 11. Issue 120: Operation Name feature proposal [.1, .2] Mark Baker had some comments [.3, .4]. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x120 [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0082.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0173.html [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0175.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 12. Issue 135: WSDL Specification readability [.1] "The WSDL specs contains a lot of formulaic text, making them harder to read than they could be. A lot of the infoset related data could be easily moved into an appendix. This would make the bulk of the spec just as informative and a lot easier to read. Could we move some of the formulaic text to an appendix?" [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x135 ================================================================== Following items pending additional input: ------------------------------------------------------------------ 13. Issue #96 [.1] STATUS: Discussion scheduled for 2/21 telcon. Jean-Jacques to re-present the concrete issue. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x96 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 13. Issue #104 Appendix E cleanup (using alternate type systems) [.1] - Bijan's review [.2]. - Might want to add OWL support to appendix E STATUS: Awaiting concrete proposal from Jacek and Bijan. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x104 [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0136.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0182.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 14. Issue 109: WSDL versioning [.1] - Use cases (DavidO) [.2] - Requirements (PaulD) [.3] STATUS: Awaiting 3 DaveO actions, 1 TomJ action. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x109 [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0070.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0076.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 15. Issue 79 [.1] STATUS: Dependent on ACTION: David Booth to suggest improvements to the spec clarifying "WSDL processor". [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x79 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 16. Issue 106: Using RDF in WSDL [.1, 2]. STATUS: Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x106 [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 17. Issue 92: Layering message patterns [.1] STATUS: Schedule for FTF. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x92 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 18. Issue 112: Headers at the abstract level [.1] - Headers as first-class citizens [.2] STATUS: discuss offline until FTF. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x112 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 19. Issue 134: Proposal for adding Compositors [.1] STATUS: Schedule for FTF. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x112 ================================================================== Other Part 1/Part 2 issues: 111: Simplified syntax? 114: Name of wsoap:fault/@name 117: Marking operations as 'safe' 121: Broken resolution of NCNAME or QNAME 122: messageReference semantics on binding 123: Requiring all operations to be bound 124: Semantics of mandatory properties and features 125: Make messageReference mandatory 126: Confusion between binding and element names 127: Behavior if import/include fails 128: Two imports for the same namespace illegal? 129: Allow multiple values for import/include locations 131: Treatment of optional extensions 132: Message attribute optional 133: Why aren't two input/output elements allowed to share the same @element value? 136: Add in-optional-out MEP ================================================================== Following items pending completion of Parts 1 and 2: ------------------------------------------------------------------ 20. Issue 32: Support for SOAP 1.1 [.1]. - Awaiting announcement of updated charter. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x32 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 21. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4] - Jacek's synthesis [.5]. - Awaiting description from Philippe showing how properties or extensions can be used to annotate the WSDL with RESTful properties. Ask Mark for a definitive list of those properties so we can consider how to associate them with property URIs or namespaces. - Marking WSDL operations as "safe" (DaveO/TAG) [.6, .7] [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x64 [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html [.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0095.html [.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0104.html [.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0021.html
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