- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:39:55 -0500 (EST)
- To: "Ian B. Jacobs" <ij@w3.org>
- cc: Dominique Hazaël-Massieux <dom@w3.org>, Steven Pemberton <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>, Ian Jacobs <ian@w3.org>, WAI Cross-group list <wai-xtech@w3.org>
I am very disappointed, particularly as the HTML group, on the recommendation of WAI PF, after discussion of this issue, changed the content model of HTML 4.01 specifically to make this valid (as well as the fact that it worked in browsers). I will take an action to raise this again as an issue in WCAG. Chaals On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Ian B. Jacobs wrote: Dominique Hazaël-Massieux wrote: > le jeu 28-03-2002 à 10:42, Steven Pemberton a écrit : > >>>>I don't get the idea of putting the navbar in a <map> (client side image >>>>map). What's the point? What do you gain? >>>> >>>This is for accessibility reason. See: >>>http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#group-bypass >>> >>Ooh I hadn't spotted this before. This is weird tag abuse. Can anyone >>explain to me what the accessibility advantages are of using a client-side >>image map not as a client-side image map, but as a container for links? >> >>Why is it better than using a <p> or a <div>? >> > > Good question. Maybe Al will be able to give more input on that. > Interestingly, it looks like this usage of <map> is not considered good > anymore: > http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wai-gl-tech-issues.html#group-bypass > "A further conclusion is that we do not want to recommend the MAP element > as a way to group links since it is a non-standard use of the element." That's unfortunate that the WCAG WG concluded that after: 1) That proposal being integrated into HTML 4.01, and 2) A fair amount of time spent in the UAWG trying to meet the need of recognizing MAP as navigation markup. I have not been party to the discussion in the WCAG WG, but I'm a little disappointed to hear that now they're unrecommending what is not *yet* standard practice but might have been. _ Ian -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +33 4 92 38 78 22 Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France)
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