Re: Mailing list archives: feeback requested on proposedimprovements (2: view)

At 08:39 AM 2002-03-28 , Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
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>I will take an action to raise this again as an issue in WCAG.
>

Please don't do that.  I am checking with the leadership of the WCAG on this point.
See the WAI CG archives.

Ian did a good job of recapping the rationale.

What I would like you to do, however, is give us an update on user agent implementation on skipping MAP.  With links to backups.

Al

>Chaals
>
>On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Ian B. Jacobs wrote:
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>  Dominique Hazaël-Massieux wrote:
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>  > le jeu 28-03-2002 à 10:42, Steven Pemberton a écrit :
>  >
>  >>>>I don't get the idea of putting the navbar in a <map> (client side image
>  >>>>map). What's the point? What do you gain?
>  >>>>
>  >>>This is for accessibility reason. See:
>  >>>http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#group-bypass
>  >>>
>  >>Ooh I hadn't spotted this before. This is weird tag abuse. Can anyone
>  >>explain to me what the accessibility advantages are of using a client-side
>  >>image map not as a client-side image map, but as a container for links?
>  >>
>  >>Why is it better than using a <p> or a <div>?
>  >>
>  >
>  > Good question. Maybe Al will be able to give more input on that.
>  > Interestingly, it looks like this usage of <map> is not considered good
>  > anymore:
>  > http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wai-gl-tech-issues.html#group-bypass
>  > "A further conclusion is that we do not want to recommend the MAP element
>  > as a way to group links since it is a non-standard use of the element."
>
>
>  That's unfortunate that the WCAG WG concluded that after:
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>    1) That proposal being integrated into HTML 4.01, and
>    2) A fair amount of time spent in the UAWG trying to meet the need
>      of recognizing MAP as navigation markup.
>
>  I have not been party to the discussion in the WCAG WG, but I'm
>  a little disappointed to hear that now they're unrecommending what
>  is not *yet* standard practice but might have been.
>
>    _ Ian
>
>
>
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