- From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:44:22 +0200
- To: Quentin Reul <qreul@csd.abdn.ac.uk>
- CC: baker@sub.uni-goettingen.de, public-swd-wg@w3.org
I can scribe today Antoine > Due to factor that I do not control, it will be difficult for me to > both attend and scribe today's meeting. > Sorry, > Quentin > > Thomas Baker wrote: >> Agenda - Sep 18 2007 SWD telecon - 1500 UTC >> W3C Semantic Web Deployment Working Group - http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/ >> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/ >> Tuesday, 1500 UTC >> 0800 Seattle >> 1100 Boston >> 1600 London >> 1700 Amsterdam >> >> Phone Boston: +1-617-761-6200 >> Nice: +33-4-8906-3499 >> >> Bristol: +44-117-370-6152 >> Conference code 79394# ('SWDWG') >> IRC irc://irc.w3.org:6665/swd Web-based IRC (member-only) >> >> Chair: Tom Baker >> Scribe: Quentin, Antoine on deck (see >> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/ScribeDuty) >> Regrets: Al (Sep 18, 25), Diego (Sep 18, 25, Oct 2) >> >> Attendance of SWD WG telecons is restricted to registered WG >> participants and persons invited by the chairs. >> >> >> >> ====================================================================== >> 1. ADMIN (10 min) >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Minutes >> >> PROPOSED to accept minutes of 11 Sep telecon: >> >> http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Upcoming telecons >> next telecons: 25 Sep, 2 Oct, then face-to-face on 8-9 Oct >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Face-to-face meeting - Amsterdam - October 8-9 2007 >> -- Logistics >> >> http://www.few.vu.nl/~aisaac/swd/ >> >> -- Draft agenda >> >> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda >> >> -- Registration >> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39408/swd-ftf-adam-registration/ >> >> >> ACTION all to register (indicate also that you're not planning to attend and/or want to attend via telecon) >> >> Roll call for attendance as of 2007-09-15: >> >>> WG members: Tom, Guus, Diego, Ed, Justin, Antoine, Jon, Alistair, Ralph, Sean >>> Guests: Steven Pemberton (RDFa), Mark Birbeck (RDFa), Ivan Herman >>> By irc/telecon: Elisa, Ben, Michael, Simone >>> >> ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08 >> ] >> >> ====================================================================== >> 2. SKOS - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#SKOS >> >> >> ACTION: TomB to update Issue list to mark ISSUE-38 "CompatibilityWithOWL-DL" as "postponed" (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/38 >> ) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action03] >> -- DONE >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Amsterdam agenda topic: "Label relations" (Guus) >> -- Issue-26: RelationshipsBetweenLabels (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26 >> ) >> >> ACTION: Guus to move ISSUE-26 forward [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action04] >> >> >> ACTION: Guus to post user experience reports for ISSUE-26 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action05 >> ] >> >> ACTION: Alistair to state the difference between the two flavours of the SimpleExtension proposal for issue 26 [recorded in >> http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-swd-minutes.html#action05] >> >> For discussion on the telecon, from >> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#LabelRelations: >> >> >> >>> Relevant issue: >>> * [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26 '''Issue-26 - >>> RelationshipsBetweenLabels''' (open)] >>> >>> * Issue: SKOS allows to represent semantic relationships >>> (broader, related) between concepts. It also allows >>> to represent relationships between concepts and labels >>> (prefLabel, altLabel). However, there is nothing proposed >>> >>> in SKOS to capture links between labels themselves, a >>> configuration which sometimes happens in concept schemes. >>> >>> Required background reading: >>> * [ >>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/ >>> SkosDesign RelationshipsBetweenLabels] >>> >>> Three options will be discussed in Amsterdam >>> * [ >>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/ProposalFour >>> Alistair's "Minimal Label Relation" proposal] >>> * [ >>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/ProposalThree >>> Guus "Simple Extension" proposal] >>> * [ >>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0013.html Guus "remove range >>> restriction for skos: prefLabel" proposal] >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Amsterdam topic "Labeling properties" (Alistair) >> >> For discussion on the telecon, from >> >> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#LabelingProperties: >> >> >>> Relevant issue: >>> * [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/31 '''Issue-31 - BasicLexicalLabelSemantics''' (open)] >>> >>> * Issue: Can a resource have two "preferred lexical >>> labels"? Can a lexical label be both "preferred" and >>> "alternative" for the same resource? If a lexical label >>> is "hidden", can it also be "preferred" or "alternative" >>> >>> for the same resource? ... >>> >>> Proposed solution: >>> * [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jun/0170.html >>> >>> Alistair, 2007-06-26]: Alistair proposes a section of >>> the draft SKOS Semantics as a resolution for Issue 31 -- >>> >>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/Semantics/Labelling?action=recall&rev=5. >>> "This proposal deals with the intuitive semantics of >>> 'preferred', 'alternative' and 'hidden' at the syntactic >>> >>> level, which avoids complicated semantics conditions and >>> allows for error-tolerant strategies to be defined." >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Amsterdam topic "Semantic Relation Properties" (Sean) >> -- >> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#SemanticRelationProperties >> >> Relevant issue: [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/44 >> '''Issue-44 - BroaderNarrowerSemantics''' (open)] >> -- Required reading? Proposed solution...? >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Amsterdam topic "Concept Semantics" (Antoine) >> >> -- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#ConceptSemantics >> >> Relevant issue: [ >> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/54 '''Issue-54 ConceptSemantics''' (open)] >> -- Required reading? Proposed solution...? Possible problems to discuss: >> * Defining the semantics of skos:Concept >> >> * Mixing with OWL concepts >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ISSUE-35: ConceptSchemeContainment ( >> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/36) >> >> ACTION: Guus to email a proposal to the list about the issue of containment [recorded in >> http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-swd-minutes.html#action01] >> >> -- Where does this belong on http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda >> ? >> >> ====================================================================== >> 3. RDFa - RDFa Overview document http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/ >> >> >> Teleconferences take place Mondays, 1300-1400 UTC - irc://irc.w3.org:6665/rdfa, conference code 7332# ('RDFa'). >> Everyone interested in RDFa is invited to participate. >> >> Telecon minutes 14 Sep: >> >> http://www.w3.org/2007/09/14-rdfa-minutes.html >> >> ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in >> http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08] >> >> Amsterdam topic "RDFa" >> -- >> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#RDFa >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Questions from IPTC (Misha Wolf) >> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0023.html >> >> ACTION: Guus to raise question three from Misha's email -- statements (creator, date modified, confidence...) about statements -- with the RDFa group [recorded in >> http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action11] >> >> ====================================================================== >> >> 4. RECIPES - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#Recipes >> >> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" ( >> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/16) -- formerly known as "Recipe issue 1.3" [recorded in >> http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] >> -- see comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0036.html >> >> >> ACTION: JonP to add questions 1 and 2 from IPTC question -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0023.html >> -- as recipe issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action10] >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Amsterdam topic "Recipes" (NO DISCUSSION LEADER YET) >> >> For discussion on the telecon, from >> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#Recipes: >> >> >> >>> * Suggested reading: >>> * Current list of issues: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/products/5 >>> * ISSUE-58 and related mails: >>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/58 >>> * Draft of Recipe 6: >>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/BestPracticeRecipe6 >>> * "How to publish linked data" tutorial by Bizer, Cyganiak and Heath, >>> >>> http://sites.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/suhl/bizer/pub/LinkedDataTutorial/ >>> * Latest Working Draft (2006-03-14): http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-vocab-pub/ >>> >>> >>> * Discussion points: >>> * Discuss and resolve an strategy to close ISSUE-58: should we fix the general case? >>> Is it enough to fix the most common cases? >>> * Discuss the current draft of Recipe 6. >>> >>> * Discuss on relationship between our Recipes and the Linked Data tutorial. >>> * Review status of issues 19 to 24: >>> * ISSUE-19 >>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/19 - Recipes should >>> supply a general server configuration template (open) >>> * ISSUE-20 >>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/20 - Online server >>> testing (open) >>> * ISSUE-21 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/21 >>> - Apache configuration >>> should add that mod_rewrite must be loaded and enabled (open) >>> * ISSUE-22 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/22 >>> - Questioning reference >>> to 'IE6 hack' (open) >>> * ISSUE-23 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/23 - There should be some >>> >>> discussion of alternatives to .htaccess (open) >>> * ISSUE-24 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/24 - Additional text >>> >>> explaining redirect choices in the recipes (open) >>> >> ====================================================================== >> 5. VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#VocabularyMgt >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Current draft - http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/VocabMgtDraft >> >> >> ACTION: Elisa will configure IPTC from Misha's email into vocabulary management documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action12 >> ] >> -- see comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0035.html >> -- however: >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0031.html >> >> ACTION: Elisa to ask for feedback on VM draft [recorded in >> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-swd-minutes.html#action06] >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> SWD review of "Cool URIs for the Semantic Web" >> -- >> https://gnowsis.opendfki.de/repos/gnowsis/papers/2006_11_concepturi/html/cooluris_sweo_note.html >> >> Michael, Vit, and Ed should please post reviews in time >> for discussion on September 25 call. Goal is to provide >> >> feedback to SWEO by October 2 at latest. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Amsterdam topic "Vocabulary Management" (Ralph locally, Elisa remotely) >> >> -- Vit suggestions: >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0000.html >> >> For discussion on the telecon, from >> >> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#VM: >> >> >>> To be discussed late afternoon Monday 16:00+ so that Elisa can join. >>> >>> Discussion points: >>> >>> 1. Overall document structure, section requirements and status (Elisa) >>> >>> 2. Ontology Version Management (Vit) -- >>> >>> Versioning Questionnaire Evaluation (Vit) - Survey Results [1] >>> Reference Implementation of RDF-based Ontology Versioning (Vit) - SemVersion (Knowledge Web EU project) [2], [3]. >>> Further discussion regarding versioning best practices based on early results of diff capabilities (Vit) >>> >>> >>> [1] http://smile.deri.ie/limesurvey/index.php?sid=2 >>> [2] >>> http://semversion.ontoware.org/kwebd233b.pdf >>> [3] http://semweb4j.org/site/semversion/ >>> >>> Suggested Reading: >>> * >>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/VocabMgtDraft >>> * http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2007Aug/0001.html >>> >>> * https://gnowsis.opendfki.de/repos/gnowsis/papers/2006_11_concepturi/html/index.html >>> >>> * http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Tasks/URI_Best_Practices >>> * Daniel is liaison, SWD may be asked for review before publication >>> >>> * http://sites.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/suhl/bizer/pub/drafts/LinkedDataTutorial/ >>> >> >> > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quentin H. 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