- From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:44:22 +0200
- To: Quentin Reul <qreul@csd.abdn.ac.uk>
- CC: baker@sub.uni-goettingen.de, public-swd-wg@w3.org
I can scribe today
Antoine
> Due to factor that I do not control, it will be difficult for me to
> both attend and scribe today's meeting.
> Sorry,
> Quentin
>
> Thomas Baker wrote:
>> Agenda - Sep 18 2007 SWD telecon - 1500 UTC
>> W3C Semantic Web Deployment Working Group - http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/
>>
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/
>> Tuesday, 1500 UTC
>> 0800 Seattle
>> 1100 Boston
>> 1600 London
>> 1700 Amsterdam
>>
>> Phone Boston: +1-617-761-6200
>> Nice: +33-4-8906-3499
>>
>> Bristol: +44-117-370-6152
>> Conference code 79394# ('SWDWG')
>> IRC irc://irc.w3.org:6665/swd Web-based IRC (member-only)
>>
>> Chair: Tom Baker
>> Scribe: Quentin, Antoine on deck (see
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/ScribeDuty)
>> Regrets: Al (Sep 18, 25), Diego (Sep 18, 25, Oct 2)
>>
>> Attendance of SWD WG telecons is restricted to registered WG
>> participants and persons invited by the chairs.
>>
>>
>>
>> ======================================================================
>> 1. ADMIN (10 min)
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Minutes
>>
>> PROPOSED to accept minutes of 11 Sep telecon:
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Upcoming telecons
>> next telecons: 25 Sep, 2 Oct, then face-to-face on 8-9 Oct
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Face-to-face meeting - Amsterdam - October 8-9 2007
>> -- Logistics
>>
>> http://www.few.vu.nl/~aisaac/swd/
>>
>> -- Draft agenda
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda
>>
>> -- Registration
>> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39408/swd-ftf-adam-registration/
>>
>>
>> ACTION all to register (indicate also that you're not planning to attend and/or want to attend via telecon)
>>
>> Roll call for attendance as of 2007-09-15:
>>
>>> WG members: Tom, Guus, Diego, Ed, Justin, Antoine, Jon, Alistair, Ralph, Sean
>>> Guests: Steven Pemberton (RDFa), Mark Birbeck (RDFa), Ivan Herman
>>> By irc/telecon: Elisa, Ben, Michael, Simone
>>>
>> ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08
>> ]
>>
>> ======================================================================
>> 2. SKOS - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#SKOS
>>
>>
>> ACTION: TomB to update Issue list to mark ISSUE-38 "CompatibilityWithOWL-DL" as "postponed" (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/38
>> ) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action03]
>> -- DONE
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Amsterdam agenda topic: "Label relations" (Guus)
>> -- Issue-26: RelationshipsBetweenLabels (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26
>> )
>>
>> ACTION: Guus to move ISSUE-26 forward [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action04]
>>
>>
>> ACTION: Guus to post user experience reports for ISSUE-26 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action05
>> ]
>>
>> ACTION: Alistair to state the difference between the two flavours of the SimpleExtension proposal for issue 26 [recorded in
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-swd-minutes.html#action05]
>>
>> For discussion on the telecon, from
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#LabelRelations:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Relevant issue:
>>> * [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26 '''Issue-26 -
>>> RelationshipsBetweenLabels''' (open)]
>>>
>>> * Issue: SKOS allows to represent semantic relationships
>>> (broader, related) between concepts. It also allows
>>> to represent relationships between concepts and labels
>>> (prefLabel, altLabel). However, there is nothing proposed
>>>
>>> in SKOS to capture links between labels themselves, a
>>> configuration which sometimes happens in concept schemes.
>>>
>>> Required background reading:
>>> * [
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/
>>> SkosDesign RelationshipsBetweenLabels]
>>>
>>> Three options will be discussed in Amsterdam
>>> * [
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/ProposalFour
>>> Alistair's "Minimal Label Relation" proposal]
>>> * [
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/ProposalThree
>>> Guus "Simple Extension" proposal]
>>> * [
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0013.html Guus "remove range
>>> restriction for skos: prefLabel" proposal]
>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Amsterdam topic "Labeling properties" (Alistair)
>>
>> For discussion on the telecon, from
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#LabelingProperties:
>>
>>
>>> Relevant issue:
>>> * [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/31 '''Issue-31 - BasicLexicalLabelSemantics''' (open)]
>>>
>>> * Issue: Can a resource have two "preferred lexical
>>> labels"? Can a lexical label be both "preferred" and
>>> "alternative" for the same resource? If a lexical label
>>> is "hidden", can it also be "preferred" or "alternative"
>>>
>>> for the same resource? ...
>>>
>>> Proposed solution:
>>> * [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jun/0170.html
>>>
>>> Alistair, 2007-06-26]: Alistair proposes a section of
>>> the draft SKOS Semantics as a resolution for Issue 31 --
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/Semantics/Labelling?action=recall&rev=5.
>>> "This proposal deals with the intuitive semantics of
>>> 'preferred', 'alternative' and 'hidden' at the syntactic
>>>
>>> level, which avoids complicated semantics conditions and
>>> allows for error-tolerant strategies to be defined."
>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Amsterdam topic "Semantic Relation Properties" (Sean)
>> --
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#SemanticRelationProperties
>>
>> Relevant issue: [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/44
>> '''Issue-44 - BroaderNarrowerSemantics''' (open)]
>> -- Required reading? Proposed solution...?
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Amsterdam topic "Concept Semantics" (Antoine)
>>
>> -- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#ConceptSemantics
>>
>> Relevant issue: [
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/54 '''Issue-54 ConceptSemantics''' (open)]
>> -- Required reading? Proposed solution...? Possible problems to discuss:
>> * Defining the semantics of skos:Concept
>>
>> * Mixing with OWL concepts
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ISSUE-35: ConceptSchemeContainment (
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/36)
>>
>> ACTION: Guus to email a proposal to the list about the issue of containment [recorded in
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-swd-minutes.html#action01]
>>
>> -- Where does this belong on http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda
>> ?
>>
>> ======================================================================
>> 3. RDFa - RDFa Overview document http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/
>>
>>
>> Teleconferences take place Mondays, 1300-1400 UTC - irc://irc.w3.org:6665/rdfa, conference code 7332# ('RDFa').
>> Everyone interested in RDFa is invited to participate.
>>
>> Telecon minutes 14 Sep:
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/09/14-rdfa-minutes.html
>>
>> ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08]
>>
>> Amsterdam topic "RDFa"
>> --
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#RDFa
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Questions from IPTC (Misha Wolf)
>>
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0023.html
>>
>> ACTION: Guus to raise question three from Misha's email -- statements (creator, date modified, confidence...) about statements -- with the RDFa group [recorded in
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action11]
>>
>> ======================================================================
>>
>> 4. RECIPES - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#Recipes
>>
>> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" (
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/16) -- formerly known as "Recipe issue 1.3" [recorded in
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
>> -- see comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0036.html
>>
>>
>> ACTION: JonP to add questions 1 and 2 from IPTC question -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0023.html
>> -- as recipe issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action10]
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Amsterdam topic "Recipes" (NO DISCUSSION LEADER YET)
>>
>> For discussion on the telecon, from
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#Recipes:
>>
>>
>>
>>> * Suggested reading:
>>> * Current list of issues: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/products/5
>>> * ISSUE-58 and related mails:
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/58
>>> * Draft of Recipe 6:
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/BestPracticeRecipe6
>>> * "How to publish linked data" tutorial by Bizer, Cyganiak and Heath,
>>>
>>> http://sites.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/suhl/bizer/pub/LinkedDataTutorial/
>>> * Latest Working Draft (2006-03-14): http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-vocab-pub/
>>>
>>>
>>> * Discussion points:
>>> * Discuss and resolve an strategy to close ISSUE-58: should we fix the general case?
>>> Is it enough to fix the most common cases?
>>> * Discuss the current draft of Recipe 6.
>>>
>>> * Discuss on relationship between our Recipes and the Linked Data tutorial.
>>> * Review status of issues 19 to 24:
>>> * ISSUE-19
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/19 - Recipes should
>>> supply a general server configuration template (open)
>>> * ISSUE-20
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/20 - Online server
>>> testing (open)
>>> * ISSUE-21 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/21
>>> - Apache configuration
>>> should add that mod_rewrite must be loaded and enabled (open)
>>> * ISSUE-22 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/22
>>> - Questioning reference
>>> to 'IE6 hack' (open)
>>> * ISSUE-23 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/23 - There should be some
>>>
>>> discussion of alternatives to .htaccess (open)
>>> * ISSUE-24 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/24 - Additional text
>>>
>>> explaining redirect choices in the recipes (open)
>>>
>> ======================================================================
>> 5. VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#VocabularyMgt
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Current draft - http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/VocabMgtDraft
>>
>>
>> ACTION: Elisa will configure IPTC from Misha's email into vocabulary management documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action12
>> ]
>> -- see comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0035.html
>> -- however:
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0031.html
>>
>> ACTION: Elisa to ask for feedback on VM draft [recorded in
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-swd-minutes.html#action06]
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> SWD review of "Cool URIs for the Semantic Web"
>> --
>> https://gnowsis.opendfki.de/repos/gnowsis/papers/2006_11_concepturi/html/cooluris_sweo_note.html
>>
>> Michael, Vit, and Ed should please post reviews in time
>> for discussion on September 25 call. Goal is to provide
>>
>> feedback to SWEO by October 2 at latest.
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Amsterdam topic "Vocabulary Management" (Ralph locally, Elisa remotely)
>>
>> -- Vit suggestions:
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0000.html
>>
>> For discussion on the telecon, from
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#VM:
>>
>>
>>> To be discussed late afternoon Monday 16:00+ so that Elisa can join.
>>>
>>> Discussion points:
>>>
>>> 1. Overall document structure, section requirements and status (Elisa)
>>>
>>> 2. Ontology Version Management (Vit) --
>>>
>>> Versioning Questionnaire Evaluation (Vit) - Survey Results [1]
>>> Reference Implementation of RDF-based Ontology Versioning (Vit) - SemVersion (Knowledge Web EU project) [2], [3].
>>> Further discussion regarding versioning best practices based on early results of diff capabilities (Vit)
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://smile.deri.ie/limesurvey/index.php?sid=2
>>> [2]
>>> http://semversion.ontoware.org/kwebd233b.pdf
>>> [3] http://semweb4j.org/site/semversion/
>>>
>>> Suggested Reading:
>>> *
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/VocabMgtDraft
>>> * http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2007Aug/0001.html
>>>
>>> * https://gnowsis.opendfki.de/repos/gnowsis/papers/2006_11_concepturi/html/index.html
>>>
>>> * http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Tasks/URI_Best_Practices
>>> * Daniel is liaison, SWD may be asked for review before publication
>>>
>>> * http://sites.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/suhl/bizer/pub/drafts/LinkedDataTutorial/
>>>
>>
>>
>
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Quentin H. Reul
> Computing Science
> University of Aberdeen
>
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