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Re: [ALL] Agenda - Sep 18 2007 SWD telecon - 1500 UTC

From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:44:22 +0200
Message-ID: <46EF9DF6.9050006@few.vu.nl>
To: Quentin Reul <qreul@csd.abdn.ac.uk>
CC: baker@sub.uni-goettingen.de, public-swd-wg@w3.org

I can scribe today

Antoine
> Due to factor that I do not control, it will be difficult for me to 
> both attend and scribe today's meeting.
> Sorry,
> Quentin
>
> Thomas Baker wrote:
>> Agenda - Sep 18 2007 SWD telecon - 1500 UTC
>> W3C Semantic Web Deployment Working Group - http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/
>>
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/
>> Tuesday, 1500 UTC
>>         0800 Seattle
>>         1100 Boston
>>         1600 London
>>         1700 Amsterdam
>>
>> Phone   Boston:  +1-617-761-6200
>>         Nice:    +33-4-8906-3499
>>
>>         Bristol: +44-117-370-6152
>>         Conference code 79394# ('SWDWG')
>> IRC     irc://irc.w3.org:6665/swd Web-based IRC (member-only)
>>
>> Chair: Tom Baker
>> Scribe: Quentin, Antoine on deck (see 
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/ScribeDuty)
>> Regrets: Al (Sep 18, 25), Diego (Sep 18, 25, Oct 2)
>>
>> Attendance of SWD WG telecons is restricted to registered WG
>> participants and persons invited by the chairs.
>>
>>
>>
>> ======================================================================
>> 1. ADMIN (10 min)
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Minutes
>>
>>   PROPOSED to accept minutes of 11 Sep telecon:   
>>
>>   http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Upcoming telecons
>>   next telecons: 25 Sep, 2 Oct, then face-to-face on 8-9 Oct
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Face-to-face meeting - Amsterdam - October 8-9 2007
>> -- Logistics
>>
>>    http://www.few.vu.nl/~aisaac/swd/
>>
>> -- Draft agenda
>>    
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda
>>
>> -- Registration
>>    http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39408/swd-ftf-adam-registration/
>>
>>
>> ACTION all to register (indicate also that you're not planning to attend and/or want to attend via telecon)
>>
>> Roll call for attendance as of 2007-09-15:
>>   
>>> WG members: Tom, Guus, Diego, Ed, Justin, Antoine, Jon, Alistair, Ralph, Sean
>>> Guests: Steven Pemberton (RDFa), Mark Birbeck (RDFa), Ivan Herman
>>> By irc/telecon: Elisa, Ben, Michael, Simone
>>>     
>> ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08
>> ]
>>
>> ======================================================================
>> 2. SKOS - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#SKOS
>>
>>
>> ACTION: TomB to update Issue list to mark ISSUE-38 "CompatibilityWithOWL-DL" as "postponed" (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/38
>> ) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action03]
>> -- DONE
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Amsterdam agenda topic: "Label relations" (Guus) 
>> -- Issue-26: RelationshipsBetweenLabels (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26
>> )
>>
>> ACTION: Guus to move ISSUE-26 forward [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action04]
>>
>>
>> ACTION: Guus to post user experience reports for ISSUE-26 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action05
>> ]
>>
>> ACTION: Alistair to state the difference between the two flavours of the SimpleExtension proposal for issue 26 [recorded in 
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-swd-minutes.html#action05]
>>
>> For discussion on the telecon, from
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#LabelRelations:
>>
>>
>>   
>>>   Relevant issue:
>>>    * [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26 '''Issue-26 - 
>>>      RelationshipsBetweenLabels''' (open)]
>>>
>>>    * Issue: SKOS allows to represent semantic relationships
>>>      (broader, related) between concepts. It also allows
>>>      to represent relationships between concepts and labels
>>>      (prefLabel, altLabel). However, there is nothing proposed
>>>
>>>      in SKOS to capture links between labels themselves, a
>>>      configuration which sometimes happens in concept schemes.
>>>
>>>   Required background reading:
>>>    * [
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/ 
>>>      SkosDesign RelationshipsBetweenLabels]
>>>
>>>   Three options will be discussed in Amsterdam
>>>    * [
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/ProposalFour 
>>>      Alistair's "Minimal Label Relation" proposal]
>>>    * [
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/ProposalThree 
>>>      Guus "Simple Extension" proposal]
>>>    * [
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0013.html Guus "remove range 
>>>      restriction for skos: prefLabel" proposal]
>>>     
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Amsterdam topic "Labeling properties" (Alistair)
>>
>> For discussion on the telecon, from
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#LabelingProperties:
>>
>>   
>>> Relevant issue:
>>>  * [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/31 '''Issue-31 - BasicLexicalLabelSemantics''' (open)]
>>>
>>>     * Issue: Can a resource have two "preferred lexical
>>>       labels"? Can a lexical label be both "preferred" and
>>>       "alternative" for the same resource? If a lexical label
>>>       is "hidden", can it also be "preferred" or "alternative"
>>>
>>>       for the same resource?  ...
>>>
>>> Proposed solution:
>>>  * [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jun/0170.html
>>>
>>>    Alistair, 2007-06-26]: Alistair proposes a section of
>>>    the draft SKOS Semantics as a resolution for Issue 31 --
>>>    
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/Semantics/Labelling?action=recall&rev=5.
>>>    "This proposal deals with the intuitive semantics of
>>>    'preferred', 'alternative' and 'hidden' at the syntactic
>>>
>>>    level, which avoids complicated semantics conditions and
>>>    allows for error-tolerant strategies to be defined."
>>>     
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Amsterdam topic "Semantic Relation Properties" (Sean)
>> -- 
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#SemanticRelationProperties
>>
>> Relevant issue: [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/44
>>  '''Issue-44 - BroaderNarrowerSemantics''' (open)]
>> -- Required reading? Proposed solution...?
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Amsterdam topic "Concept Semantics" (Antoine)
>>
>> -- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#ConceptSemantics
>>
>> Relevant issue: [
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/54 '''Issue-54 ConceptSemantics''' (open)]
>> -- Required reading? Proposed solution...?  Possible problems to discuss:
>>    * Defining the semantics of skos:Concept
>>
>>    * Mixing with OWL concepts
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ISSUE-35: ConceptSchemeContainment (
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/36)
>>
>> ACTION: Guus to email a proposal to the list about the issue of containment [recorded in 
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-swd-minutes.html#action01]
>>
>> -- Where does this belong on http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda
>> ?
>>
>> ======================================================================
>> 3. RDFa - RDFa Overview document http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/
>>
>>
>>    Teleconferences take place Mondays, 1300-1400 UTC -    irc://irc.w3.org:6665/rdfa, conference code 7332# ('RDFa').
>>    Everyone interested in RDFa is invited to participate.
>>
>> Telecon minutes 14 Sep:
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/09/14-rdfa-minutes.html
>>
>> ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in 
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08]
>>
>> Amsterdam topic "RDFa"
>> -- 
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#RDFa
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Questions from IPTC (Misha Wolf)
>>    
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0023.html
>>
>> ACTION: Guus to raise question three from Misha's email -- statements (creator, date modified, confidence...) about statements -- with the RDFa group [recorded in 
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action11]
>>
>> ======================================================================
>>
>> 4. RECIPES - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#Recipes
>>
>> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" (
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/16) -- formerly known as "Recipe issue 1.3" [recorded in 
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
>> -- see comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0036.html
>>
>>
>> ACTION: JonP to add questions 1 and 2 from IPTC question -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0023.html
>>  -- as recipe issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action10]
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Amsterdam topic "Recipes" (NO DISCUSSION LEADER YET)
>>
>> For discussion on the telecon, from
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#Recipes:
>>
>>
>>   
>>> * Suggested reading:
>>>    * Current list of issues: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/products/5
>>>    * ISSUE-58 and related mails: 
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/58
>>>    * Draft of Recipe 6: 
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/BestPracticeRecipe6
>>>    * "How to publish linked data" tutorial by Bizer, Cyganiak and Heath, 
>>>       
>>> http://sites.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/suhl/bizer/pub/LinkedDataTutorial/
>>>    * Latest Working Draft (2006-03-14): http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-vocab-pub/
>>>
>>>
>>> * Discussion points:
>>>   * Discuss and resolve an strategy to close ISSUE-58: should we fix the general case? 
>>>     Is it enough to fix the most common cases?
>>>   * Discuss the current draft of Recipe 6.
>>>
>>>   * Discuss on relationship between our Recipes and the Linked Data tutorial.
>>>   * Review status of issues 19 to 24:
>>>   * ISSUE-19 
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/19 - Recipes should 
>>>     supply a general server configuration template (open)
>>>   * ISSUE-20 
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/20 - Online server 
>>>     testing (open)
>>>   * ISSUE-21 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/21
>>>  - Apache configuration 
>>>     should add that mod_rewrite must be loaded and enabled (open)
>>>   * ISSUE-22 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/22
>>>  - Questioning reference 
>>>     to 'IE6 hack' (open)
>>>   * ISSUE-23 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/23 - There should be some 
>>>
>>>     discussion of alternatives to .htaccess (open)
>>>   * ISSUE-24 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/24 - Additional text 
>>>
>>>     explaining redirect choices in the recipes (open)
>>>     
>> ======================================================================
>> 5. VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#VocabularyMgt
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Current draft - http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/VocabMgtDraft
>>
>>
>> ACTION: Elisa will configure IPTC from Misha's email into vocabulary management documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action12
>> ]
>> -- see comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0035.html
>> -- however: 
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0031.html
>>
>> ACTION: Elisa to ask for feedback on VM draft [recorded in 
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-swd-minutes.html#action06] 
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> SWD review of "Cool URIs for the Semantic Web"
>> -- 
>> https://gnowsis.opendfki.de/repos/gnowsis/papers/2006_11_concepturi/html/cooluris_sweo_note.html
>>
>>    Michael, Vit, and Ed should please post reviews in time
>>    for discussion on September 25 call. Goal is to provide
>>
>>    feedback to SWEO by October 2 at latest.
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Amsterdam topic "Vocabulary Management" (Ralph locally, Elisa remotely)
>>
>> -- Vit suggestions: 
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0000.html
>>
>> For discussion on the telecon, from
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#VM:
>>
>>   
>>> To be discussed late afternoon Monday 16:00+ so that Elisa can join.
>>>
>>> Discussion points:
>>>
>>> 1. Overall document structure, section requirements and status (Elisa)
>>>
>>> 2. Ontology Version Management (Vit) --
>>>
>>>    Versioning Questionnaire Evaluation (Vit) - Survey Results [1]
>>>    Reference Implementation of RDF-based Ontology Versioning (Vit) - SemVersion (Knowledge Web EU project) [2], [3].
>>>    Further discussion regarding versioning best practices based on early results of diff capabilities (Vit)
>>>
>>>
>>>    [1] http://smile.deri.ie/limesurvey/index.php?sid=2
>>>    [2] 
>>> http://semversion.ontoware.org/kwebd233b.pdf
>>>    [3] http://semweb4j.org/site/semversion/
>>>
>>>    Suggested Reading:
>>>    * 
>>> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/VocabMgtDraft
>>>    * http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2007Aug/0001.html
>>>
>>>    * https://gnowsis.opendfki.de/repos/gnowsis/papers/2006_11_concepturi/html/index.html
>>>
>>>    * http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Tasks/URI_Best_Practices
>>>    * Daniel is liaison, SWD may be asked for review before publication
>>>
>>>    * http://sites.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/suhl/bizer/pub/drafts/LinkedDataTutorial/
>>>     
>>
>>   
>
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Computing Science
> University of Aberdeen
>
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