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[ALL] Agenda - Sep 18 2007 SWD telecon - 1500 UTC

From: Thomas Baker <baker@sub.uni-goettingen.de>
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:25:35 +0200
To: SWD Working Group <public-swd-wg@w3.org>
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Agenda - Sep 18 2007 SWD telecon - 1500 UTC
W3C Semantic Web Deployment Working Group - http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/
Tuesday, 1500 UTC
        0800 Seattle
        1100 Boston
        1600 London
        1700 Amsterdam

Phone   Boston:  +1-617-761-6200
        Nice:    +33-4-8906-3499
        Bristol: +44-117-370-6152
        Conference code 79394# ('SWDWG')
IRC     irc://irc.w3.org:6665/swd Web-based IRC (member-only)

Chair: Tom Baker
Scribe: Quentin, Antoine on deck (see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/ScribeDuty)
Regrets: Al (Sep 18, 25), Diego (Sep 18, 25, Oct 2)

Attendance of SWD WG telecons is restricted to registered WG
participants and persons invited by the chairs.


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1. ADMIN (10 min)

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Minutes

  PROPOSED to accept minutes of 11 Sep telecon:   
  http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html

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Upcoming telecons
  next telecons: 25 Sep, 2 Oct, then face-to-face on 8-9 Oct

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Face-to-face meeting - Amsterdam - October 8-9 2007
-- Logistics
   http://www.few.vu.nl/~aisaac/swd/

-- Draft agenda
   http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda

-- Registration
   http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39408/swd-ftf-adam-registration/

ACTION all to register (indicate also that you're not planning to attend and/or want to attend via telecon)

Roll call for attendance as of 2007-09-15:
> WG members: Tom, Guus, Diego, Ed, Justin, Antoine, Jon, Alistair, Ralph, Sean
> Guests: Steven Pemberton (RDFa), Mark Birbeck (RDFa), Ivan Herman
> By irc/telecon: Elisa, Ben, Michael, Simone

ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08]

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2. SKOS - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#SKOS

ACTION: TomB to update Issue list to mark ISSUE-38 "CompatibilityWithOWL-DL" as "postponed" (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/38) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action03]
-- DONE

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Amsterdam agenda topic: "Label relations" (Guus) 
-- Issue-26: RelationshipsBetweenLabels (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26)

ACTION: Guus to move ISSUE-26 forward [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action04]

ACTION: Guus to post user experience reports for ISSUE-26 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action05]

ACTION: Alistair to state the difference between the two flavours of the SimpleExtension proposal for issue 26 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-swd-minutes.html#action05]

For discussion on the telecon, from
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#LabelRelations:

>   Relevant issue:
>    * [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26 '''Issue-26 - 
>      RelationshipsBetweenLabels''' (open)]
>    * Issue: SKOS allows to represent semantic relationships
>      (broader, related) between concepts. It also allows
>      to represent relationships between concepts and labels
>      (prefLabel, altLabel). However, there is nothing proposed
>      in SKOS to capture links between labels themselves, a
>      configuration which sometimes happens in concept schemes.
>
>   Required background reading:
>    * [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/ 
>      SkosDesign RelationshipsBetweenLabels]
>
>   Three options will be discussed in Amsterdam
>    * [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/ProposalFour 
>      Alistair's "Minimal Label Relation" proposal]
>    * [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/ProposalThree 
>      Guus "Simple Extension" proposal]
>    * [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0013.html Guus "remove range 
>      restriction for skos: prefLabel" proposal]

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Amsterdam topic "Labeling properties" (Alistair)

For discussion on the telecon, from
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#LabelingProperties:

> Relevant issue:
>  * [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/31 '''Issue-31 - BasicLexicalLabelSemantics''' (open)]
>     * Issue: Can a resource have two "preferred lexical
>       labels"? Can a lexical label be both "preferred" and
>       "alternative" for the same resource? If a lexical label
>       is "hidden", can it also be "preferred" or "alternative"
>       for the same resource?  ...
> 
> Proposed solution:
>  * [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jun/0170.html
>    Alistair, 2007-06-26]: Alistair proposes a section of
>    the draft SKOS Semantics as a resolution for Issue 31 --
>    http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/Semantics/Labelling?action=recall&rev=5.
>    "This proposal deals with the intuitive semantics of
>    'preferred', 'alternative' and 'hidden' at the syntactic
>    level, which avoids complicated semantics conditions and
>    allows for error-tolerant strategies to be defined."

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Amsterdam topic "Semantic Relation Properties" (Sean)
-- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#SemanticRelationProperties

Relevant issue: [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/44 '''Issue-44 - BroaderNarrowerSemantics''' (open)]
-- Required reading? Proposed solution...?

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Amsterdam topic "Concept Semantics" (Antoine)
-- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#ConceptSemantics

Relevant issue: [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/54 '''Issue-54 ConceptSemantics''' (open)]
-- Required reading? Proposed solution...?  Possible problems to discuss:
   * Defining the semantics of skos:Concept
   * Mixing with OWL concepts

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ISSUE-35: ConceptSchemeContainment (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/36)

ACTION: Guus to email a proposal to the list about the issue of containment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-swd-minutes.html#action01]

-- Where does this belong on http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda?

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3. RDFa - RDFa Overview document http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/

   Teleconferences take place Mondays, 1300-1400 UTC -    irc://irc.w3.org:6665/rdfa, conference code 7332# ('RDFa').
   Everyone interested in RDFa is invited to participate.

Telecon minutes 14 Sep:
http://www.w3.org/2007/09/14-rdfa-minutes.html

ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08]

Amsterdam topic "RDFa"
-- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#RDFa

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Questions from IPTC (Misha Wolf)
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0023.html

ACTION: Guus to raise question three from Misha's email -- statements (creator, date modified, confidence...) about statements -- with the RDFa group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action11]

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4. RECIPES - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#Recipes

ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/16) -- formerly known as "Recipe issue 1.3" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
-- see comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0036.html

ACTION: JonP to add questions 1 and 2 from IPTC question -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0023.html -- as recipe issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action10]

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Amsterdam topic "Recipes" (NO DISCUSSION LEADER YET)

For discussion on the telecon, from
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#Recipes:

> * Suggested reading:
>    * Current list of issues: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/products/5
>    * ISSUE-58 and related mails: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/58
>    * Draft of Recipe 6: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/BestPracticeRecipe6
>    * "How to publish linked data" tutorial by Bizer, Cyganiak and Heath, 
>       http://sites.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/suhl/bizer/pub/LinkedDataTutorial/
>    * Latest Working Draft (2006-03-14): http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-vocab-pub/
>
> * Discussion points:
>   * Discuss and resolve an strategy to close ISSUE-58: should we fix the general case? 
>     Is it enough to fix the most common cases?
>   * Discuss the current draft of Recipe 6.
>   * Discuss on relationship between our Recipes and the Linked Data tutorial.
>   * Review status of issues 19 to 24:
>   * ISSUE-19 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/19 - Recipes should 
>     supply a general server configuration template (open)
>   * ISSUE-20 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/20 - Online server 
>     testing (open)
>   * ISSUE-21 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/21 - Apache configuration 
>     should add that mod_rewrite must be loaded and enabled (open)
>   * ISSUE-22 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/22 - Questioning reference 
>     to 'IE6 hack' (open)
>   * ISSUE-23 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/23 - There should be some 
>     discussion of alternatives to .htaccess (open)
>   * ISSUE-24 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/24 - Additional text 
>     explaining redirect choices in the recipes (open)

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5. VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#VocabularyMgt

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Current draft - http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/VocabMgtDraft

ACTION: Elisa will configure IPTC from Misha's email into vocabulary management documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action12]
-- see comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0035.html
-- however: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0031.html

ACTION: Elisa to ask for feedback on VM draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-swd-minutes.html#action06] 

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SWD review of "Cool URIs for the Semantic Web"
-- https://gnowsis.opendfki.de/repos/gnowsis/papers/2006_11_concepturi/html/cooluris_sweo_note.html

   Michael, Vit, and Ed should please post reviews in time
   for discussion on September 25 call. Goal is to provide
   feedback to SWEO by October 2 at latest.

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Amsterdam topic "Vocabulary Management" (Ralph locally, Elisa remotely)

-- Vit suggestions: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0000.html

For discussion on the telecon, from
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#VM:

> To be discussed late afternoon Monday 16:00+ so that Elisa can join.
> 
> Discussion points:
> 
> 1. Overall document structure, section requirements and status (Elisa)
> 
> 2. Ontology Version Management (Vit) --
>    Versioning Questionnaire Evaluation (Vit) - Survey Results [1]
>    Reference Implementation of RDF-based Ontology Versioning (Vit) - SemVersion (Knowledge Web EU project) [2], [3].
>    Further discussion regarding versioning best practices based on early results of diff capabilities (Vit)
> 
>    [1] http://smile.deri.ie/limesurvey/index.php?sid=2
>    [2] http://semversion.ontoware.org/kwebd233b.pdf
>    [3] http://semweb4j.org/site/semversion/
> 
>    Suggested Reading:
>    * http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/VocabMgtDraft
>    * http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2007Aug/0001.html
>    * https://gnowsis.opendfki.de/repos/gnowsis/papers/2006_11_concepturi/html/index.html
>    * http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Tasks/URI_Best_Practices
>    * Daniel is liaison, SWD may be asked for review before publication
>    * http://sites.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/suhl/bizer/pub/drafts/LinkedDataTutorial/


-- 
Tom Baker - tbaker@tbaker.de - baker@sub.uni-goettingen.de
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