- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 15:25:07 +0200
- To: "public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org" <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>
Hi all,
today's call minutes are at
http://www.w3.org/2013/05/22-mlw-lt-minutes.html
and below as text.
Best,
Felix
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
MLW-LT WG
22 May 2013
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013May/0209.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2013/05/22-mlw-lt-irc
Attendees
Present
fsasaki, renat, Yves, pedro, Jirka, phil, Des, Ankit,
chriLi, mdelolmo, leroy, Milan, tadej, serge, dF
Regrets
dom, dave, jörg
Chair
felix
Scribe
fsasaki
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Infoshare - your place to give infos about what has
happened last week
2. [6]1) Dublin f2f and ITS 2 showcase
3. [7]2) ITS Logo
4. [8]Adobe to describe current state of implementation
5. [9]4) Logrus to describe current state of
implementation
6. [10]5) "Elements Within Text" defaults in HTML5
7. [11]6) Section 1-2 - how to move forward
8. [12]7) XLIFF mapping layout and prefix
* [13]Summary of Action Items
__________________________________________________________
Infoshare - your place to give infos about what has happened last
week
1) Dublin f2f and ITS 2 showcase
[14]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Dub
lin_June_2013_f2f_and_showcase#18_June_morning:_ITS_2.0_showcas
e
[14]
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Dublin_June_2013_f2f_and_showcase#18_June_morning:_ITS_2.0_showcase
felix: please confirm by Thursday 23 May eob europe "your" slot
/ participation
... we will make a public announcement on the w3c homepage,
have a registration page
des: list of external people?
felix: we will distirbute the program via w3c page / cngl / ...
... idea is nto to get many people
... have a registration and see who will register
... probably will have more technical people
... pedro had sent a layout with "business slots"
... not sure if we would have the right people for that in
dublin
2) ITS Logo
[15]http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/ITS2.0_Logo
[15] http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/ITS2.0_Logo
pedro: if everybody agrees with phil's proposal
... we should just send the draft to somebody who is a graphic
professional and go ahead
phil: jirka said that the "dublin core" tag line
... when you shrink the logo the line will get lost
... we could have several versions - one for larger , one for
smaller scale
... jirka said that the 2.0 might not be needed when shrinking
down
... I thought the ITS2.0 gives a symetries also it fits well to
the font
pedro: agree
... if tomorrow there is a version 2.1, 2.x, the new updated
logo can easily be updated with the new version
... indicating both the logo and the version is good
... if you search for ITS 2.0 you get more things reltaed to
ITS
serge: colors on the top are a little bit dimmed
... one may ligthen them
pedro: sure
... I created them by using teh MLW colors
... that wouldn't stop us from makign the brighter
<Yves_> +1 for bright colors
pedro: should use some money for the final art of the logo
felix: everybody ok withteh logo and givng it to professional
designer?
<scribe> ACTION: felix to find a designer to make the
professional logo [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/22-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-531 - Find a designer to make the
professional logo [on Felix Sasaki - due 2013-05-29].
des: tag line looks off balanced
Adobe to describe current state of implementation
des: goal is to discuss state of implementation from Adobe
... will discuss implementation, current state, and the
deliverables / coming months
... implementation prospoal based around adobe experience
manager
... cq is CMS system, we proposed ITS2 into foundation layers
that build up CQ
des explainign the relation between adobe experience mamanger ,
CRX and apache jackrabbit
and how ITS2 fits into here
des: development has started, work on two data categories:
translate and loc note
looking at project time line (current version) - sprint based
development. 1st prototype in june, 2nd prototype in july, 3rd
in august, release in september
des: focus on HTML, global rules, no XML at this point
... will demo in the group 19 June
felix will distribute the slides
4) Logrus to describe current state of implementation
renat: preview tools needed for end users of ITS2
... so that they know what is inside XLIFF / HTML files, since
you cannot see the metadata easily
<dF> will join audio soon..
renat: primary goal of project is visualizatino of metadata
ok
scribe: and to make metadata accessibility in translation tools
... also to make metadata avail. in browers, so that
customization is easier
... project components: several visual designers to render
metadata in browser
... javascript
... navigation of content in browser
... we will develop conversion algorithms: XML+ITS > HTML5+ITS
... XLIFF+ITS > HTML5+ITS
... XML+ITS > XLIFF+ITS
... HTML+ITS > HTML5+ITS
... development status of visual designs - example screen shots
renat explaining the visual layouts
renat: sample files will be completed by the end of may
... file conversion algorithm will be ready by the end of
september
... xml conversion should be ready by July + August
... visualization scripts should be completed by the end of
june
... issues to be addresses: "Tranlsation" of XPath expressions
from source XML to target HTML files
... if ITS rules contains a "selector" attribute it refers to
XML elements
... in HTML file the reference to names in XPath expressions
needs to be replaced by e.g. "span"
... in XLIFF we need to use MRK instead of span
... selection between span and div in output html
... and merging of ITS rules into interal list of rules
... that is parsing of [recursive?] list of rules
... also issues related to visualization. Reneding of local +
standoff markup, merging of rules, hyperlinks of embedded
metadata
... highlighting of active ITS items
... parsing nested ITS metadata
... differences in java script implementations between browsers
... navigation through content and ITS items
... fragmentation of content to avoid large pieces of text to
be displayed
renat demoing examples
felix: can you make the visualization part available by the end
of june?
renat: yes
<chriLi>
[17]http://docs.oasis-open.org/xliff/xliff-core/v2.0/csprd01/xl
iff-core-v2.0-csprd01.html#d0e8773 Visualization in XLIFF 2.0
[17]
http://docs.oasis-open.org/xliff/xliff-core/v2.0/csprd01/xliff-core-v2.0-csprd01.html#d0e8773
christian: XLIFF 2.0 draft is out for comments
... the above link is also related to visualization
... renat, may be worth reading for you
<Yves_> One question: is the Logrus implementation for XLIFF
1.2 or 2.0?
renat: will implement 1.2 of XLIFF
<Yves_> ok thanks Renate
david: public review will be over by 29 May, please send
comments asap
... there will be a second review, but we would like to have
comments during the first period
5) "Elements Within Text" defaults in HTML5
[18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
lt/2013May/0182.html
[18]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013May/0182.html
[19]http://www.w3.org/TR/html51/dom.html#phrasing-content-1
[19] http://www.w3.org/TR/html51/dom.html#phrasing-content-1
felix: asking if people have comments on the 182 mail or agree
with it?
<Yves_> sure
<scribe> ACTION: yves to make elements within text edits and
create example file, reflecting
[20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
lt/2013May/0182.html mail [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/22-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]
[20]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013May/0182.html
<trackbot> Created ACTION-532 - Make elements within text edits
and create example file, reflecting
[22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
lt/2013May/0182.html mail [on Yves Savourel - due 2013-05-29].
[22]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013May/0182.html
6) Section 1-2 - how to move forward
felix: propose to have editors calls about section 1-2 in the
next three weeks
david: agree
christian: me too
... will put my edits into the ODD, that will generate the CVS
mails
<scribe> ACTION: felix to schedule editors calls [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/22-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-533 - Schedule editors calls [on
Felix Sasaki - due 2013-05-29].
7) XLIFF mapping layout and prefix
[24]http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/XLIFF_1.2_Mapping
[24] http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/XLIFF_1.2_Mapping
[25]http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/XLIFF_2.0_Mapping
[25] http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/XLIFF_2.0_Mapping
[26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2013
May/0021.html
[26]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2013May/0021.html
"itsxlf"
[27]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Dub
lin_June_2013_f2f_and_showcase#18_June_morning:_ITS_2.0_showcas
e
[27]
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Dublin_June_2013_f2f_and_showcase#18_June_morning:_ITS_2.0_showcase
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: felix to find a designer to make the professional
logo [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/22-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to schedule editors calls [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/22-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: yves to make elements within text edits and
create example file, reflecting
[30]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
lt/2013May/0182.html mail [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/22-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]
[30]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013May/0182.html
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