TELECON AGENDA - 5 SEP 2007 from John Boyer on 2007-09-05 (public-forms@w3.org from September 2007)

From: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:30:50 -0700
To: Forms WG (new) <public-forms@w3.org>
Message-ID: <OFC768E3F0.69B8C8B9-ON8825734D.00185F48-8825734D.0018D02C@ca.ibm.com>
Regrets: Erik (possible), Joern

Previous minutes: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0086.html
IRC supplement: http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-forms-minutes.html

Minute takers rotation list, when not done by Leigh:
Erik, Susan, Joern, Dave, Ulrich, Blake, Nick, Kenneth, 
Rogelio, David, Rafael, MarkB, Keith, Charlie, MarkS, 
Raman, Lars, Sebastian

AGENDA ITEMS:
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REPORTS (* as needed)
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Next FtF - Hosted by SATEC September 12 to 14, 2007
Attendance Questionnaire: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34637/ftfsept2007/

XForms 1.0 Third Edition
http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/PER-xforms-20070725/

XForms 1.1
To add an issue from www-forms-editor, *forward* to 
xforms-issues@mn.aptest.com
To search last call issues and add bugs, see 
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/
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(after getting an account)
For problems with issue tracker, contact shane@aptest.com

XForms Basic 1.0, 1.1

Backplane
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2007JanMar/0165.html

* XForms Conference at XML Conference
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0055.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0036.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0024.html

Easy XForms apps that could be made public

XForms 1.2/Transitional
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0022.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2007JanMar/0173.html

Forms Joint Task Force with HTML WG
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0070.html

Latest Action Item List:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0079.html

Action item rotation list (when no volunteers):
Dave, Erik, Keith, Joern, John, Kenneth, Lars, Leigh, MarkB, 
MarkS, Nick, Rafael, Raman, Rogelio, Sebastian, Steven, 
Susan, Ulrich, Blake, Charlie


ISSUES for XForms 1.0 and 1.1
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Discuss some of the "big update" issues
  - The "new line" distinction between input and text area
  - Form control definition issues, e.g. the non-applicability of readonly 
to group
  - MIPs as information versus enforcing MIPs
  - Rigorous definition of repeat w.r.t. XML events and shadow DOMs 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0055.html 

The context attr should apply even if @bind used, and
Keep or abandon idea of putting context in common attributes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0053.html

Problem with definition of readonly (1.0 and 1.1)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0050.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0000.html
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/MIPs?id=176;user=guest;selectid=176;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Errors in 10.5 Iteration
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Sep/0006.html

Last Call Issues Needing Approval of Proposed Resolution:
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Group 2: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0052.html
Response: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0080.html, 
          
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0074.html
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=70;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=71;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Group 3: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0052.html
Response: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0080.html, 
          
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0081.html
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=124;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=125;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=126;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=162;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=171;user=guest;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Actions?id=175;user=guest;selectid=175;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1


Last Call Issues Open and Ready for Consideration:
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Issues with functions
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=12;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=11;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=63;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=69;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=65;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Let required and other MIPs affect UI control rendition
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/MIPs?id=102;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with sending value changed and MIP events
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=29;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=50;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with the use of xforms-binding-exception and 
xforms-compute-exception
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=36;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Need to define meaning of focus event on container form controls
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=155;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Nillable complex type with simple content
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=92;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Problems with dateTimeDuration and yearMonthDuration
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=7;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=137;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with datatype validation
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=85;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=86;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=87;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Problems with binding expressions changing the evaluation context of other 
attributes
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=28;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Model I18N Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=8;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=13;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

XForms select issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=88;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=89;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=90;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1


http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=145;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=146;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=147;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=177;user=guest;selectid=177;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Interaction with XPath 2.0
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=140;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=141;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=143;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=144;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=149;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with accessing XForms from Scripts
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=33;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=156;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Things wrong with 7.5
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=41;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=142;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

More possible errors for XPaths
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=139;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Repeat Index Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=24;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Treatment of Event Handlers inside Repeated Content
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=153;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Misc I18N Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=9;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Human Readable Resource Identifiers
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=38;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Misc Editorial
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=53;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Submission Editorial
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=46;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Submission: Problem of requiring order of submission children
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=4;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Submission: More examples desired
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=163;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1


Other Issues
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Requirement to support dynamic dependencies in UI bindings
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0030.html

Issues with 7.5
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0010.html

Instance replacement fix needed
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0081.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0065.html

Non-selected case and non-relevant group
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0051.html

Events on startup; events for other UI creation scenarios
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0088.html

Remarks about xf:insert in XForms 1.1
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Mar/0005.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Mar/0008.html
* Resolved May 16 for John or Erik to deal with, but no action item

Issues with deleting the context node
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Feb/0027.html
This was discussed April 4 (
http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-xforms-minutes.html#item08),
but minutes record no resolution or action.

Issues that have resurfaced but are technically out of scope
------------------------------------------------------------
Discuss 'Better definition of Form Control'

Issues with select1
1) Does a select1 visually multiselect?
2) Handling of simultaneous matching a copy item and an empty value item


ISSUES not yet categorized by version
=====================================


ISSUES for XForms 1.2, 2.0 and Beyond
=====================================

Problem with incremental attribute setting for selection="open" 
select1/select controls
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Sep/0098.html

The meaning of message
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0013.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0012.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0011.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0010.html

The repeat-* attributes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006OctDec/0232.html

We should allow the result of calculate to
be cast according to the assigned datatype,
e.g. no need to call boolean-from-string() if 
calculate assigns to a boolean node.

Single-Node Binding and UICommon* on case element
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Sep/0092.html

Better align case with group and switch with select1
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Sep/0115.html

Repeat and page view
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Aug/0090.html

Extended Actions
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JulSep/0073

multiple schemas targeting same namespace (unresolved when discussed at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JulSep/att-0109/20060726.html#topic15
)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JanMar/0348
  http://www.oxygenxml.com/archives/xml-dev/200209/msg00091.html
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2002Aug/0102.html
COMMENT: The spec restricts a model to one schema per namespace

Put @mediatype on textarea

Parallel trees
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Apr/0002.html

Need to distinguish types of bindings
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0099.html

See Future Featuers.


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