Re: Vocabulary Call Thursday 12pm US Eastern Standard Time

Antoine,

Thank you for sharing and providing these links, knowing that you weren't
on the call I kept the meeting agenda to focus on data usage originally,
but I am really glad you were able to re-convey the data quality
perspective as input to the discussion.  I don't know if Bart or perhaps
others will be on the call as well.

Reading what you shared is interesting is that some of the aspects of data
usage we've talked about, are a part of data quality requirements.  I don't
recall many discussions about the relationships between data usage and data
quality vocabularies, but I think this is something we'll have to keep in
mind in the future.  As a case in point:  "metrics" is something data usage
vocabulary has recently designated as a need and something that could
certainly be leveraged and represents possible inter-dependencies.

One of the the discoveries Bernadette and made about the requirements was
the expansion of ideas relating to data usage. This led to a more thorough
investigation about the meaning of data usage that included new questions
including "metrics/trends" questions [1] that Bernadette and I are
compiling.  While the list is still somewhat rough, it was helpful using
against our current use case document to see new data usage requirements.

Regarding the F2F meeting, the item you shared would be really good to
have.  Based on what I mentioned it might also be nice to talk about inter
dependencies  between the vocabularies.  I know the time difference is
absolutely brutal, we'll need to be cognizant of this, hopefully trying to
catch you and others in Europe at the beginning of the day (4am works for
me but I don't think TPAC would be as interested :-) ).

Let's keep this email discussion going!

Eric

References
[1] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_Usage_Use_Cases


On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote:

> Dear Eric,
>
> Huge thanks for keeping the ball rolling. I won't be able to make it
> tonight, but as an attempt to help the meeting I'm copying some ideas I had
> discussed with Bart and Phil, and which actually aligns with what Phil has
> already proposed in the call.
>
> I will probably not be available much for the F2F. The time difference
> will make it hard for remote participation, though I'll try...
>
> We could still propose a one-hour session, during which the group
> discusses the requirements that they would like to be met by the
> quality/granularity voc.
> Starting from the ones in the UCR doc [1], and the ones on the wiki at
> [2]. It would be great if the group could give input for more details to
> these requirements!
>
> Perhaps one can distill ourselves more requirements (as mere bullets, as
> in the current section on the wiki page) from the other pointers of the
> "notes" wiki page. But the current list may give already enough material to
> discuss.
>
> In any case I would not submit to the discussion the class diagram that
> Phil has made [3]. Useful as that diagram will certainly be, I don't feel
> it's the time yet for the group to discuss it. The group could perhaps
> focus rather on merging  the "requirement material" down in Phil's page [4]
> with the above mentioned requirements.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Antoine
>
> [1] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html#requirements-
> for-quality-and-granularity-description-vocabulary
> [2] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_quality_notes#
> Suggested_requirements:
> [3] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Quality_and_Granularity_
> Description_Vocabulary#Class_Diagram
> [4] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Quality_and_Granularity_
> Description_Vocabulary#Open_Data_Support_Fields
>
>
> Antoine
>
> On 10/1/14 9:29 PM, Eric Stephan wrote:
>
>> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141002
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Eric Stephan <ericphb@gmail.com <mailto:
>> ericphb@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     My apologies for getting this out a bit late today.
>>
>>     Two items will be on the agenda:
>>     * Review the UCR and see just what requirements are in there and
>> think about how we're going to address them.
>>     * Update on Use Case template for Data Usage.
>>
>>     Vocabulary Call will be tomorrow 12pm US Eastern Standard Time
>>
>>     http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=
>> Bi-Weekly+Editors+Call&iso=20141002T09&p1=2484&ah=1
>>
>>
>>
>