- From: Kaliya Identity Woman <kaliya@identitywoman.net>
- Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 14:45:03 -0700
- To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
- Cc: public-credentials@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CANez3f5-Lt-qK4+UwNdtEcOrK3X=On9P4xj3rhdq0H_WtXU8pQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 7:27 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote: > On 3/16/22 10:13 AM, Snorre Lothar von Gohren Edwin wrote: > > No one benefits from working in silos in this space, so I support a > wider > > ecosystem roadmap with labels/marks. > > ... which then begs multiple questions: > > Should we point out technologies that are competitive with one another > and/or > largely overlap in functionality? > > For example: There are at least three VC exchange protocols in play right > now. > Yes - and I agree with the note following this one on the thread that they are meeting different needs use-cases. The fact is that there is a huge opportunity to really leverage the "OIDC" "doorways" that exist all over the web (a protocol that is literally used a billion times a day...you know some real adoption) to exchange VCs - with some small changes. AND people in this group seem to be "deathly afraid" of that work because it isn't home grown here alone in isolation and focused on web only. DIDComm is also a channel that is being worked on for exchanging VCs - and has a real community really using it in the wild. Then at IIW a conversation happened about how to bridge the interoperability centered around CCG and the interoperability centered around Aries - and to make credentials movable between these existing ecosystems - and WACI-PEX (now called WACI-DIDComm was created) but also its not clear this was ever "embraced" as good collaborative work - but more like a lot of "not invented here" sentiment. As far as I know it was never invited to be presented here. There is a lot of "othering" of work that isn't CCG. Because that work is less "pure". SSI is bigger than CCG - and there is good work - being done by good people - with a strong commitment to open standards outside of this group. One of the reasons people choose other venues are good ones - like stable good infrastructure and perhaps most importantly - support staff. We could not be where we are now with organizations that have brought community support staff into the mix. And no it is not just conspiracies by large corporations to sabotage and hurt the community. Honestly we must get our act together as a wider collective community BECAUSE - other things that are not in the SSI community are gaining traction and have market adoption because they have "one thing" they are selling that "works" and "decision makers" understand it. (I'm looking at mDL here and maybe also ADI) You asked "who should decide" about what goes on the road map. Right now it seems to be Manu decides. I think listening to the wisdom of the crowd here to share the key standards they see as being relevant to the road map you shared is a good starting point. Maybe we work with some swarm intelligence about directions and options - https://unanimous.ai/ Maybe use Radical Exchange voice which leverages Polis https://pol.is/home and Quadratic Voting https://towardsdatascience.com/what-is-quadratic-voting-4f81805d5a06 Trying to think out of the box. There are lots of potential deliberative processes. > There are 68 Aries RFCs... do we list all of them? Only the active ones? > > Do we list vocabularies? Privately developed ones? How do we choose? > > -- manu > > -- > Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/ > Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. > News: Digital Bazaar Announces New Case Studies (2021) > https://www.digitalbazaar.com/ > > >
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