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RE: Agenda: WS-Policy WG F2F 09 - 2006-09-12 - 14

From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:10:39 -0700
Message-ID: <E16EB59B8AEDF445B644617E3C1B3C9C023FCDC5@repbex01.amer.bea.com>
To: "Christopher B Ferris" <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>, <public-ws-policy@w3.org>
Hi Chris et al,
 
Could we reschedule the "versioning" discussion scheduled to start at 4:15 pm to some other time, maybe wednesday morning or afternoon?  I have 2 medical/physio appts at 2:45 and 4:00.
 
thanks,
Dave


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	Subject: Agenda: WS-Policy WG F2F 09 - 2006-09-12 - 14
	
	

	Agenda: WS-Policy WG F2F 10 - 2006-09-12 - 14
	
	The phone number to use for the WS-Policy WG F2F is
	documented on the WG's administrative home page:
	http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#phone
	
	Participants are invited to join IRC channel #ws-policy as documented on the WG's administrative home page.   Please register with Zakim:
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html 
	
	F2F Logistics: 
	        http://www.w3.org/2006/09/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html
	
	Tuesday Sept 12 9:00 - 5:00 pm PDT Chair: Chris Ferris 
	
	0. Breakfast 8:00 am PDT 
	
	1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair (9:00 am PDT)
	
	a) Scribe List: (will select one victim per half day 
	                in-order from the list below)
	Dimitar Angelov
	Sanjiva Weerawarana
	Bijan Parsia
	Sergey Beryozkin
	Maryann Hondo
	Toufic Boubez
	Glen Daniels
	Fabian Ritzmann
	Ashok Malhotra
	Sanka Samaranayake
	Ruchith Fernando
	Felix Sasaki
	Daniel Roth
	Charlton Barreto
	Jeffrey Crump
	Tom Jordahl
	Jong Lee 
	        Vladislav Bezrukov 
	----------------------
	Asir Vedamuthu
	Ümit Yalçinalp
	Frederick Hirsch
	Dale Moberg
	David Orchard
	Jeff Mischkinsky
	William Henry
	Prasad Yendluri
	Mark Little
	Abbie Barbir
	Yakov Sverdlov
	Anthony Nadalin 
	        Monica Martin 
	
	c) Scribe FAQ
	Member only:
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0013.html
	
	2. Review and approval of telcon minutes, Chair (9:05 am PDT)
	
	a) Review and approval of 2006-09-06 minutes, Chair
	Draft minutes (member only):
	http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-ws-policy-minutes.html
	
	3. Future WG meetings, Chair 9:10 am PDT
	
	a) Next distributed meeting is Wed Sep 27 - Chris to chair
	
	b) Future meetings
	http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#meetings 
	
	c) LC schedule review, Chair 
	        link: 
	
	4. Local orientation/logistics info, Asir (9:15 am PDT)
	
	5. Editorial team report, Maryann (9:20 am PDT)
	
	a) Editorial drafts 
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0017.html
	Status: WG members should have reviewed these Editor's Drafts before 
	the F2F meeting so we can approve them as public WDs at the F2F.
	
	6. Review action items, Chair (9:30 am PDT)
	
	a) Open action items:
	Member only:
	http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/open
	
	7. Break 10:15 am PDT 
	
	8. Detailed review of WS-Policy 1.5 -- Framework (10:45 am PDT) 
	        http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-policy-framework.html 
	
	9. Lunch (12:30 pm PDT) 
	
	10. Detailed review of WS-Policy 1.5 -- Attachments (1:30 pm PDT) 
	        http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-policy-attachment.html 
	
	11. Break (3:00 pm PDT) 
	
	12. Primer discussion, Chair (3:30 pm PDT) 
	        http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0020.html 
	        http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0019.html 
	        Action-28: daveo look at adding/developing versioning policy material to primer/guide 
	                http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0159.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0159.html>  
	
	13. Extensibility/Versioning "tarball" discussion (4:15 pm PDT) 
	
	a) Namespace URI versioning Policy is not clear, Umit Y
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3617 
	http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-ws-policy-irc#T17-17-00 
	
	b) Policy framework should document extensibility points, David Orchard
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3590
	See also:
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0155.html
	and Asir's reply:
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0156.html 
	
	c) Use of element wildcard ##any namespace vs ##other namespace, DaveO (also listed under new issues) 
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3662 
	
	14. Recess (5:00 pm PDT) 
	
	Wednesday Sept 13 9:00 - 5:00 pm PDT Chair, Paul Cotton 
	
	15. Breakfast (8:00 am PDT) 
	
	16. Editorial and wording changing issues, Chair
	
	a) Clarify the relation of overlapping definitions in the fr...,
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3562
	Status: Editorial team is working on this issue. 
	
	b. 3559 - Conformance Sections needed for both specs 
	Completed Action - http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/64 <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/64>  
	This issue is ready for processing. 
	Proposal from Asir - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0027.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0027.html>  
	
	c) Definition of interaction, Asir & Maryann 
	http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/48 
	
	17. New issues, Chair
	Note: each new issue to be presented by the owner for triage purposes
	and to ensure that the other WG members clearly understand the issue.
	Actions will be assigned to develop proposals to resolve the issues.
	
	a) Using UsingAddressing Extension Element as a WS-Policy assertion, PLH 
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3656 
	Status: email thread between PLH and Asir 
	        http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0024.html 
	
	b) Use of element wildcard ##any namespace vs ##other namespace, DaveO 
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3662 
	
	c) Clarify the policy model for Web Services 
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3672 
	See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0031.html 
	
	18. Issues requiring more discussion or proposal, Chair
	
	a) Need a URI structure to refer to WSDL 1.0 definitions, etc. , Ashok
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3599
	Action item:
	http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/75 
	Status: Ashok has a proposal 
	        http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0033.html
	
	b) Formal semantics, Bijan Parsia
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3621
	
	c) Policy assertion equivalence and generality, Bijan Parsia
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3622
	
	19. Break 10:30 am PDT 
	
	20. Issues requiring more discussion or proposal (con't), Chair (11:00 am PDT) 
	
	d) Optional Assertions may not be usable in all circumstances, Umit
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3564
	
	e) Semantics of successful intersection determined by domain-specific assertion content, Glen D
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3577
	Action item:
	http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/83
	
	f) The absence of an assertion should not mean that the behavior is "explicitly prohibited"
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3602
	See also:
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0110.html 
	
	21. Lunch (12:30 pm PDT) 
	
	22. Issues ready for processing, Chair (1:30 pm PDT)
	
	a) Policy framework should document extensibility points, David Orchard
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3590
	See also:
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0155.html
	and Asir's reply:
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0156.html
	
	b) Clarify conversion of compact to normal form in Framework section 4.3, Frederick H
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3613 
	Status: Frederick's proposal: 
	        http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0029.html
	
	c) Namespace URI versioning Policy is not clear, Umit Y
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3617 
	
	d) 3549 - Require assertions to be distinguished from parameter elements 
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3549 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3549>  
	This issue will be ready for processing today. We are working with Nokia\Frederick on minor editorial changes. 
	        http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0038.html 
	
	23. Break (3:00 pm PDT) 
	
	24. Acceptance or rejection of issues, Chair (3:30 pm PDT) 
	
	Status: At the Aug 30 meeting there was a request for WG members to review the following items to determine if a proposal is needed for these issues. This was deferred until the F2F at last week's meeting.
	
	a) Need to be able to specify ordering between assertions, Ashok
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3638
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0157.html
	Status: see  http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-ws-policy-irc#T17-30-09 
	
	b) Which policy alternative was selected?, Ashok
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3639
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0158.html
	Status: see  http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-ws-policy-irc#T17-30-09 
	
	25. Possible out of Scope issues (4:15 pm PDT)
	
	a) Policy Attachment to WS-Addr EndpointReferences, Glen D
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3620
	See Paul's reply:
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0169.html 
	Status: Glen's proposal: 
	        http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0028.html 
	
	26. Recess (5:00 pm PDT) 
	
	
	Thursday Sept 14 9:00 - 3:00 pm PDT Chair, Paul Cotton 
	
	27. Breakfast (8:00 am PDT)
	
	28. Coordination items, Chair (9:45 am PDT) 
	
	a) Relation of Attachment to SAWSDL, Bijan Parsia
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3623
	Paul's reply:
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0147.html
	See Paul's update on Sept 5:
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0016.html
	Status: No further action required at this time.
	
	b) Coordination item, Maryann Hondo
	http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3619
	See thread at:
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0172.html
	Status:  The WS-Addressing WG will be reviewing this at their meeting this week. 
	
	29. Questions on WG email list, Chair (9:00 am PDT)
	
	a) Does the selected Policy alternative apply in both directions? Ashok M.
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0174.html 
	
	30. Review proposal WS-Policy Attachment for WSDL 2.0, Asir (9:30 am PDT) 
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0037.html 
	
	31. Discuss new issues raised during reviews  (9:30 am PDT) 
	
	32. Break 10:30 am PDT 
	
	33. Discuss new issues raised during reviews  (11:00 am PDT) 
	
	34. Lunch (12:30 pm PDT) 
	
	35. Any other business 
	
	36. Review Action Items rasied during F2F, Chair (2:30 pm PDT) 
	
	37. Adjourn (3:00 pm PDT) 
	
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