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RE: Agenda: WS-Policy WG F2F 09 - 2006-09-12 - 14

From: Christopher B Ferris <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:52:28 -0400
To: "David Orchard" <dorchard@bea.com>
Cc: public-ws-policy@w3.org, public-ws-policy-request@w3.org
Message-ID: <OFA313DCED.8CC92C18-ON852571E7.004BBA63-852571E7.004C33BB@us.ibm.com>
Ok

Christopher Ferris
STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
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phone: +1 508 377 9295

public-ws-policy-request@w3.org wrote on 09/12/2006 12:10:39 AM:

> Hi Chris et al,
> 
> Could we reschedule the "versioning" discussion scheduled to start 
> at 4:15 pm to some other time, maybe wednesday morning or afternoon?
> I have 2 medical/physio appts at 2:45 and 4:00.
> 
> thanks,
> Dave
> 
> From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ws-policy-
> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Christopher B Ferris
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:46 PM
> To: public-ws-policy@w3.org
> Subject: Agenda: WS-Policy WG F2F 09 - 2006-09-12 - 14

> 
> Agenda: WS-Policy WG F2F 10 - 2006-09-12 - 14
> 
> The phone number to use for the WS-Policy WG F2F is
> documented on the WG's administrative home page:
> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#phone
> 
> Participants are invited to join IRC channel #ws-policy as 
> documented on the WG's administrative home page.   Please register with 
Zakim:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html 
> 
> F2F Logistics: 
>         http://www.w3.org/2006/09/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html
> 
> Tuesday Sept 12 9:00 - 5:00 pm PDT Chair: Chris Ferris 
> 
> 0. Breakfast 8:00 am PDT 
> 
> 1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair (9:00 am PDT)
> 
> a) Scribe List: (will select one victim per half day 
>                 in-order from the list below)
> Dimitar Angelov
> Sanjiva Weerawarana
> Bijan Parsia
> Sergey Beryozkin
> Maryann Hondo
> Toufic Boubez
> Glen Daniels
> Fabian Ritzmann
> Ashok Malhotra
> Sanka Samaranayake
> Ruchith Fernando
> Felix Sasaki
> Daniel Roth
> Charlton Barreto
> Jeffrey Crump
> Tom Jordahl
> Jong Lee 
>         Vladislav Bezrukov 
> ----------------------
> Asir Vedamuthu
> Ümit Yalçinalp
> Frederick Hirsch
> Dale Moberg
> David Orchard
> Jeff Mischkinsky
> William Henry
> Prasad Yendluri
> Mark Little
> Abbie Barbir
> Yakov Sverdlov
> Anthony Nadalin 
>         Monica Martin 
> 
> c) Scribe FAQ
> Member only:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0013.html
> 
> 2. Review and approval of telcon minutes, Chair (9:05 am PDT)
> 
> a) Review and approval of 2006-09-06 minutes, Chair
> Draft minutes (member only):
> http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-ws-policy-minutes.html
> 
> 3. Future WG meetings, Chair 9:10 am PDT
> 
> a) Next distributed meeting is Wed Sep 27 - Chris to chair
> 
> b) Future meetings
> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#meetings 
> 
> c) LC schedule review, Chair 
>         link: 
> 
> 4. Local orientation/logistics info, Asir (9:15 am PDT)
> 
> 5. Editorial team report, Maryann (9:20 am PDT)
> 
> a) Editorial drafts 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0017.html
> Status: WG members should have reviewed these Editor's Drafts before 
> the F2F meeting so we can approve them as public WDs at the F2F.
> 
> 6. Review action items, Chair (9:30 am PDT)
> 
> a) Open action items:
> Member only:
> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/open
> 
> 7. Break 10:15 am PDT 
> 
> 8. Detailed review of WS-Policy 1.5 -- Framework (10:45 am PDT) 
>         http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-
> policy-framework.html 
> 
> 9. Lunch (12:30 pm PDT) 
> 
> 10. Detailed review of WS-Policy 1.5 -- Attachments (1:30 pm PDT) 
>         http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-
> policy-attachment.html 
> 
> 11. Break (3:00 pm PDT) 
> 
> 12. Primer discussion, Chair (3:30 pm PDT) 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0020.html
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0019.html
>         Action-28: daveo look at adding/developing versioning policy
> material to primer/guide 
>                 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-
> policy/2006Aug/0159.html 
> 
> 13. Extensibility/Versioning "tarball" discussion (4:15 pm PDT) 
> 
> a) Namespace URI versioning Policy is not clear, Umit Y
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3617 
> http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-ws-policy-irc#T17-17-00 
> 
> b) Policy framework should document extensibility points, David Orchard
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3590
> See also:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0155.html
> and Asir's reply:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0156.html 
> 
> c) Use of element wildcard ##any namespace vs ##other namespace, 
> DaveO (also listed under new issues) 
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3662 
> 
> 14. Recess (5:00 pm PDT) 
> 
> Wednesday Sept 13 9:00 - 5:00 pm PDT Chair, Paul Cotton 
> 
> 15. Breakfast (8:00 am PDT) 
> 
> 16. Editorial and wording changing issues, Chair
> 
> a) Clarify the relation of overlapping definitions in the fr...,
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3562
> Status: Editorial team is working on this issue. 
> 
> b. 3559 - Conformance Sections needed for both specs 
> Completed Action - http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/64 

> This issue is ready for processing. 
> Proposal from Asir - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-
> policy/2006Sep/0027.html 
> 
> c) Definition of interaction, Asir & Maryann 
> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/48 
> 
> 17. New issues, Chair
> Note: each new issue to be presented by the owner for triage purposes
> and to ensure that the other WG members clearly understand the issue.
> Actions will be assigned to develop proposals to resolve the issues.
> 
> a) Using UsingAddressing Extension Element as a WS-Policy assertion, PLH 

> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3656 
> Status: email thread between PLH and Asir 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0024.html
> 
> b) Use of element wildcard ##any namespace vs ##other namespace, DaveO 
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3662 
> 
> c) Clarify the policy model for Web Services 
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3672 
> See: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0031.html 
> 
> 18. Issues requiring more discussion or proposal, Chair
> 
> a) Need a URI structure to refer to WSDL 1.0 definitions, etc. , Ashok
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3599
> Action item:
> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/75 
> Status: Ashok has a proposal 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0033.html
> 
> b) Formal semantics, Bijan Parsia
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3621
> 
> c) Policy assertion equivalence and generality, Bijan Parsia
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3622
> 
> 19. Break 10:30 am PDT 
> 
> 20. Issues requiring more discussion or proposal (con't), Chair (11:00 
am PDT)
> 
> d) Optional Assertions may not be usable in all circumstances, Umit
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3564
> 
> e) Semantics of successful intersection determined by domain-
> specific assertion content, Glen D
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3577
> Action item:
> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/83
> 
> f) The absence of an assertion should not mean that the behavior is 
> "explicitly prohibited"
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3602
> See also:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0110.html 
> 
> 21. Lunch (12:30 pm PDT) 
> 
> 22. Issues ready for processing, Chair (1:30 pm PDT)
> 
> a) Policy framework should document extensibility points, David Orchard
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3590
> See also:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0155.html
> and Asir's reply:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0156.html
> 
> b) Clarify conversion of compact to normal form in Framework section
> 4.3, Frederick H
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3613 
> Status: Frederick's proposal: 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0029.html
> 
> c) Namespace URI versioning Policy is not clear, Umit Y
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3617 
> 
> d) 3549 - Require assertions to be distinguished from parameter elements 

> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3549 
> This issue will be ready for processing today. We are working with 
> Nokia\Frederick on minor editorial changes. 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0038.html
> 
> 23. Break (3:00 pm PDT) 
> 
> 24. Acceptance or rejection of issues, Chair (3:30 pm PDT) 
> 
> Status: At the Aug 30 meeting there was a request for WG members to 
> review the following items to determine if a proposal is needed for 
> these issues. This was deferred until the F2F at last week's meeting.
> 
> a) Need to be able to specify ordering between assertions, Ashok
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3638
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0157.html
> Status: see  http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-ws-policy-irc#T17-30-09 
> 
> b) Which policy alternative was selected?, Ashok
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3639
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0158.html
> Status: see  http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-ws-policy-irc#T17-30-09 
> 
> 25. Possible out of Scope issues (4:15 pm PDT)
> 
> a) Policy Attachment to WS-Addr EndpointReferences, Glen D
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3620
> See Paul's reply:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0169.html 
> Status: Glen's proposal: 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0028.html
> 
> 26. Recess (5:00 pm PDT) 
> 
> 
> Thursday Sept 14 9:00 - 3:00 pm PDT Chair, Paul Cotton 
> 
> 27. Breakfast (8:00 am PDT)
> 
> 28. Coordination items, Chair (9:45 am PDT) 
> 
> a) Relation of Attachment to SAWSDL, Bijan Parsia
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3623
> Paul's reply:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0147.html
> See Paul's update on Sept 5:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0016.html
> Status: No further action required at this time.
> 
> b) Coordination item, Maryann Hondo
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3619
> See thread at:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0172.html
> Status:  The WS-Addressing WG will be reviewing this at their 
> meeting this week. 
> 
> 29. Questions on WG email list, Chair (9:00 am PDT)
> 
> a) Does the selected Policy alternative apply in both directions? Ashok 
M.
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0174.html 
> 
> 30. Review proposal WS-Policy Attachment for WSDL 2.0, Asir (9:30 am 
PDT) 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0037.html 
> 
> 31. Discuss new issues raised during reviews  (9:30 am PDT) 
> 
> 32. Break 10:30 am PDT 
> 
> 33. Discuss new issues raised during reviews  (11:00 am PDT) 
> 
> 34. Lunch (12:30 pm PDT) 
> 
> 35. Any other business 
> 
> 36. Review Action Items rasied during F2F, Chair (2:30 pm PDT) 
> 
> 37. Adjourn (3:00 pm PDT) 
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