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Agenda: WS-Policy WG F2F 09 - 2006-09-12 - 14

From: Christopher B Ferris <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:45:37 -0400
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Agenda: WS-Policy WG F2F 10 - 2006-09-12 - 14

The phone number to use for the WS-Policy WG F2F is
documented on the WG's administrative home page:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#phone

Participants are invited to join IRC channel #ws-policy as documented on 
the WG's administrative home page.   Please register with Zakim:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html

F2F Logistics:
        http://www.w3.org/2006/09/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html

Tuesday Sept 12 9:00 - 5:00 pm PDT Chair: Chris Ferris

0. Breakfast 8:00 am PDT

1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair (9:00 am PDT)

a) Scribe List: (will select one victim per half day 
                in-order from the list below)
Dimitar Angelov
Sanjiva Weerawarana
Bijan Parsia
Sergey Beryozkin
Maryann Hondo
Toufic Boubez
Glen Daniels
Fabian Ritzmann
Ashok Malhotra
Sanka Samaranayake
Ruchith Fernando
Felix Sasaki
Daniel Roth
Charlton Barreto
Jeffrey Crump
Tom Jordahl
Jong Lee
        Vladislav Bezrukov
----------------------
Asir Vedamuthu
Ümit Yalçinalp
Frederick Hirsch
Dale Moberg
David Orchard
Jeff Mischkinsky
William Henry
Prasad Yendluri
Mark Little
Abbie Barbir
Yakov Sverdlov
Anthony Nadalin
        Monica Martin

c) Scribe FAQ
Member only:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0013.html

2. Review and approval of telcon minutes, Chair (9:05 am PDT)

a) Review and approval of 2006-09-06 minutes, Chair
Draft minutes (member only):
http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-ws-policy-minutes.html

3. Future WG meetings, Chair 9:10 am PDT

a) Next distributed meeting is Wed Sep 27 - Chris to chair

b) Future meetings
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#meetings

c) LC schedule review, Chair
        link: 

4. Local orientation/logistics info, Asir (9:15 am PDT)

5. Editorial team report, Maryann (9:20 am PDT)

a) Editorial drafts 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0017.html
Status: WG members should have reviewed these Editor's Drafts before 
the F2F meeting so we can approve them as public WDs at the F2F.

6. Review action items, Chair (9:30 am PDT)

a) Open action items:
Member only:
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/open

7. Break 10:15 am PDT

8. Detailed review of WS-Policy 1.5 -- Framework (10:45 am PDT)
        
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-policy-framework.html

9. Lunch (12:30 pm PDT)

10. Detailed review of WS-Policy 1.5 -- Attachments (1:30 pm PDT)
        
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-policy-attachment.html

11. Break (3:00 pm PDT)

12. Primer discussion, Chair (3:30 pm PDT)
        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0020.html
        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0019.html
        Action-28: daveo look at adding/developing versioning policy 
material to primer/guide
                
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0159.html

13. Extensibility/Versioning "tarball" discussion (4:15 pm PDT)

a) Namespace URI versioning Policy is not clear, Umit Y
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3617
http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-ws-policy-irc#T17-17-00

b) Policy framework should document extensibility points, David Orchard
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3590
See also:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0155.html
and Asir's reply:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0156.html

c) Use of element wildcard ##any namespace vs ##other namespace, DaveO 
(also listed under new issues)
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3662

14. Recess (5:00 pm PDT)

Wednesday Sept 13 9:00 - 5:00 pm PDT Chair, Paul Cotton

15. Breakfast (8:00 am PDT)

16. Editorial and wording changing issues, Chair

a) Clarify the relation of overlapping definitions in the fr...,
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3562
Status: Editorial team is working on this issue.

b. 3559 - Conformance Sections needed for both specs
Completed Action - http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/64
This issue is ready for processing.
Proposal from Asir - 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0027.html 

c) Definition of interaction, Asir & Maryann
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/48

17. New issues, Chair
Note: each new issue to be presented by the owner for triage purposes
and to ensure that the other WG members clearly understand the issue.
Actions will be assigned to develop proposals to resolve the issues.

a) Using UsingAddressing Extension Element as a WS-Policy assertion, PLH
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3656
Status: email thread between PLH and Asir 
        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0024.html

b) Use of element wildcard ##any namespace vs ##other namespace, DaveO
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3662

c) Clarify the policy model for Web Services
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3672
See: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0031.html

18. Issues requiring more discussion or proposal, Chair

a) Need a URI structure to refer to WSDL 1.0 definitions, etc. , Ashok
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3599
Action item:
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/75
Status: Ashok has a proposal
        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0033.html

b) Formal semantics, Bijan Parsia
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3621

c) Policy assertion equivalence and generality, Bijan Parsia
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3622

19. Break 10:30 am PDT

20. Issues requiring more discussion or proposal (con't), Chair (11:00 am 
PDT)

d) Optional Assertions may not be usable in all circumstances, Umit
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3564

e) Semantics of successful intersection determined by domain-specific 
assertion content, Glen D
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3577
Action item:
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/83

f) The absence of an assertion should not mean that the behavior is 
"explicitly prohibited"
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3602
See also:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0110.html

21. Lunch (12:30 pm PDT)

22. Issues ready for processing, Chair (1:30 pm PDT)

a) Policy framework should document extensibility points, David Orchard
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3590
See also:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0155.html
and Asir's reply:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0156.html

b) Clarify conversion of compact to normal form in Framework section 4.3, 
Frederick H
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3613
Status: Frederick's proposal:
        
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0029.html

c) Namespace URI versioning Policy is not clear, Umit Y
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3617

d) 3549 - Require assertions to be distinguished from parameter elements
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3549
This issue will be ready for processing today. We are working with 
Nokia\Frederick on minor editorial changes.
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0038.html

23. Break (3:00 pm PDT)

24. Acceptance or rejection of issues, Chair (3:30 pm PDT)

Status: At the Aug 30 meeting there was a request for WG members to review 
the following items to determine if a proposal is needed for these issues. 
This was deferred until the F2F at last week's meeting.

a) Need to be able to specify ordering between assertions, Ashok
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3638
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0157.html
Status: see  http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-ws-policy-irc#T17-30-09

b) Which policy alternative was selected?, Ashok
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3639
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0158.html
Status: see  http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-ws-policy-irc#T17-30-09

25. Possible out of Scope issues (4:15 pm PDT)

a) Policy Attachment to WS-Addr EndpointReferences, Glen D
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3620
See Paul's reply:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0169.html
Status: Glen's proposal:
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0028.html

26. Recess (5:00 pm PDT)


Thursday Sept 14 9:00 - 3:00 pm PDT Chair, Paul Cotton

27. Breakfast (8:00 am PDT)

28. Coordination items, Chair (9:45 am PDT)

a) Relation of Attachment to SAWSDL, Bijan Parsia
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3623
Paul's reply:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0147.html
See Paul's update on Sept 5:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0016.html
Status: No further action required at this time.

b) Coordination item, Maryann Hondo
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3619
See thread at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0172.html
Status:  The WS-Addressing WG will be reviewing this at their meeting this 
week.

29. Questions on WG email list, Chair (9:00 am PDT)

a) Does the selected Policy alternative apply in both directions? Ashok M.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Aug/0174.html

30. Review proposal WS-Policy Attachment for WSDL 2.0, Asir (9:30 am PDT)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0037.html

31. Discuss new issues raised during reviews  (9:30 am PDT)

32. Break 10:30 am PDT

33. Discuss new issues raised during reviews  (11:00 am PDT)

34. Lunch (12:30 pm PDT)

35. Any other business

36. Review Action Items rasied during F2F, Chair (2:30 pm PDT)

37. Adjourn (3:00 pm PDT)
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