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RE: [VER 2] Agenda: WS-Policy WG Teleconference 20 - 2006-12-13

From: Asir Vedamuthu <asirveda@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:47:05 -0800
Message-ID: <1E0F0378382054439F14D5450650478F0BA908E5@RED-MSG-42.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
To: Christopher B Ferris <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>, <public-ws-policy@w3.org>
For agenda item '9. Guidelines Issues', I think it might be easier to tackle the following three issues first:

 

> j) 3980 The introduction section..., Asir 
> l) 3983 The Guidelines document should use a phrase to identify the 
target audience consistently., Asir

> m) 3984 Assertion Parameters vs. Name Value Pairs., Asir

 

Regards,

 

Asir S Vedamuthu

Microsoft Corporation

 

 

 

 

From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Christopher B Ferris
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 6:31 AM
To: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org; public-ws-policy@w3.org
Subject: [VER 2] Agenda: WS-Policy WG Teleconference 20 - 2006-12-13

 


Version 2 

Added discussion of normalized wsdl1.1 identifiers 
Added links to other issue discussions 
Added new issues 

Christopher Ferris
STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/chrisferris
phone: +1 508 377 9295 

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Agenda: WS-Policy WG Teleconference 20 - 2006-12-13 
  
The phone number to use for the WS-Policy WG F2F is documented on the WG's administrative home page: 
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#phone 
  
Participants are invited to join IRC channel #ws-policy as documented on the WG's administrative home page. Please register with Zakim: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html 
  
1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair 
  
a) Scribe List: 

Mark Little (Scribe for Dec 13) 
Monica Martin (Scribe for Dec 20) 
Jong Lee 
Dimitar Angelov 
Sanjiva Weerawarana 
Ruchith Fernando 
Jeffrey Crump 
Tom Jordahl 
Vladislav Bezrukov 
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Glen Daniels 
Jeff Mischkinsky 
William Henry 
Prasad Yendluri 
Abbie Barbir 
Anthony Nadalin 
Ashok Malhotra 
Daniel Roth 
Sergey Beryozkin 
Charlton Barreto 
Sanka Samaranayake 
Frederick Hirsch 
Fabian Ritzmann 
David Orchard 
Toufic Boubez 
Yakov Sverdlov 
Felix Sasaki 
Ümit Yalçinalp 
Asir Vedamuthu 
Maryann Hondo 
Dale Moberg 
Chris Ferris 
  
b) Scribe FAQ (Updated) 
Member only: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html 
  
2. Review and approval of previous minutes, Chair 
http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-ws-policy-minutes.html 
  
3. Future WG meetings, Chair 
  
a) Next distributed meeting is Wed Dec 20 - Chair is Paul Cotton. 
  
b) Please make your plans for attending the F2F in Jan, hosted by BEA 
in San Francisco. 

c) Future meetings 
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#meetings 
  
4. Editorial team report 
  
a) Primer and Guidelines Editor's Drafts 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0005.html 
  
5. Review action items, Chair 
Open action items - Member only: 
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/open 
  
ACTION-152 Review 4.4.8 with respect to the addition of the ignorable attribute ("treasure island") due December 1, David Orchard 
  
ACTION-159 Raise an bugzilla issue on the mime type issue Felix Sasaki 
2006-12-13 
DONE.  See: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0027.html 
  
ACTION-162 Open an issue for the scoping of WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers Christopher Ferris 2006-12-13 
DONE 

ACTION-163 Work with Frederick to draft an example of the RM and security composition requiring nesting Umit Yalcinalp 2006-12-13 
  
ACTION-164 Try to write up alternative text that takes into consideration today\\'s discussion on issue 3979 
  
6. Last Call Framework and Attachment Issues 
  
a) Re: Request for comments on Media Type section of "Web Services Policy 1.5 - Framework" W3C Working Draft, Mark Baker 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-comments/2006Dec/0001.html 
  
ACTION-159 Raise an bugzilla issue on the mime type issue Felix Sasaki 
2006-12-13 
DONE.  See: 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4042 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0027.html 
Note: this issue has been resolved 
  
b) Issue 4038: Nested policy in normal form - Example does not match expectations 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4038 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0024.html 
See note from Asir: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0034.html 
  
c) Issue 4039: WS-Policy does not define its relationship to XML Base, Chris 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4039 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0022.html 
See proposal from Asir: 
        http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0040.html 
  
d) (NEW) ISSUE 4068: XML Schema does not allow for validating xml:id in policy documents 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4068 
See note from Felix: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0037.html 
Also see: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0036.html 

e) (NEW) ISSUE 4069: Updating References for Use of xml:id 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4069 
See note from Asir: 
        http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0041.html 

8. WSDL11Identifiers 
  
a) Dec Editor's Draft: 
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/wsdl11elementidentifiers.html 
See note from David: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0048.html 

b) Umit's comment on table format: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0099.html 
  
c) ACTION-156 OPEN Respond to 1.1 element names topic Ashok Malhotra 
DONE.  See: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0128.html 
  
d) Paul's review: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0127.html 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0129.html 
  
e) ISSUE 4045: Scoping WSDL1.1 identifiers to WS-Pol Att defined attachment points 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4045 
See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0031.html 

ACTION-162 Open an issue for the scoping of WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers Christopher Ferris 2006-12-13 
DONE 

8. Primer Doc Issues 

a) (NEW) ISSUE 4041: Update primer to mention ignorable as needed, Frederick 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4041 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0026.html 
  
9. Guidelines issues 
Status: We will discuss those issues with the most discussion on the email list. 
  
a) (NEW) ISSUE 4073: Free standing statements, Asir 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4073 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0049.html 

b) (NEW) ISSUE 4074: Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues, Dan 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html 

c) (NEW) ISSUE 4072: Statements not relevant to assertion design, Dan 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4072 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0046.html 

d) (NEW) ISSUE 4040: [Guidelines] Update guidelines to include discussion of ignorable, Frederick 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4040 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0025.html 

e) 3978 Clarify if Section 7 on defining new policy attachment mechanisms is necessary, Dan Roth 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3978 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0102.html 
Maryann's response: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0131.html 
  
f) 3989 Suggested format for the Guidelines document., Asir 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3989 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0113.html 
Maryann's response: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0132.html 
Asir: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0139.html 
Umit: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0141.html 
  
g) 3988 Section 8 doesn't illustrate how to design an assertion., Asir 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3988 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0112.html 
Email discussion thread: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0000.html 
  
h) 3953 - Remove language that use of security policy assertions forces nested assertions for other domains, Frederick 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3953 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0039.html 
Status: Frederick's update proposal against more recent Guidelines doc: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0008.html 
  
ACTION-163 Work with Frederick to draft an example of the RM and security composition requiring nesting Umit Yalcinalp 2006-12-13 
  
ACTION-164 Try to write up alternative text that takes into consideration today\\'s discussion on issue 3979 
  
i) 3979 Clarify the guidance in section 5.9.1 on referencing policy expressions, Dan Roth 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3979 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0104.html 
  
ACTION-164 Try to write up alternative text that takes into consideration today\\'s discussion on issue 3979 
  
j) 3980 The introduction section..., Asir 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3980 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0106.html 
  
k) 3981 What is the relevance of Section 4 'Authoring Styles' to policy 
assertion design?, Asir 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3981 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0107.html 
  
l) 3983 The Guidelines document should use a phrase to identify the 
target audience consistently., Asir 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3983 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0108.html 
  
m) 3984 Assertion Parameters vs. Name Value Pairs., Asir 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3984 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0109.html 
  
n) 3986 Parameters vs. Nested Policy decision at the Domain Level?, Asir 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3986 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0110.html 
  
o) 3987 Section 5.9 - Lifecycle of Assertions?, Asir 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3987 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0111.html 
  
p) 3990 Content in Section 5.7 is unclear, Dan Roth 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3990 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0114.html 
  
q) ISSUE 4035: [ Guidelines] Section 2 should account for interop impact of non-wire or one-party assertions and ignorable property 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4035 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0007.html 
  
11. Any other business 
  
12. Adjourn 
  
Christopher Ferris 
STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy 
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com 
blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/chrisferris 
phone: +1 508 377 9295 

  
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