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TELECON AGENDA: 25 JULY 2007

From: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:31:01 -0400
To: Forms WG (new) <public-forms@w3.org>
Message-ID: <OF1254F7AC.429ED37B-ON88257323.0018B92B-88257323.0018D07D@ca.ibm.com>
Regrets: Steven, Charlie, Roger

Previous minutes: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0087.html
IRC supplement: http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-forms-minutes.html

Minute takers rotation list, when not done by Leigh:
Erik, Susan, Joern, Dave, Ulrich, Blake, Nick, Kenneth, 
Rogelio, David, Rafael, MarkB, Keith, Charlie, MarkS, 
Raman, Lars, Sebastian

AGENDA ITEMS:
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REPORTS (* as needed)
=====================

Coming calls
Summer Questionnaire: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/32219/xformssummer07/

Next FtF - Hosted by SATEC September 12 to 14, 2007
Attendance Questionnaire: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34637/ftfsept2007/

* XForms 1.0 Third Edition
http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/PER-xforms-20070725/

XForms 1.1
To add an issue from www-forms-editor, *forward* to 
xforms-issues@mn.aptest.com
To search last call issues and add bugs, see 
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/
For last call issues admin, use http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/xforms-issues/ 
(after getting an account)

XForms Basic 1.0, 1.1

Backplane
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2007JanMar/0165.html

* XForms Conference at XML Conference
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0055.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0036.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0024.html

Easy XForms apps that could be made public

XForms 1.2/Transitional
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0022.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2007JanMar/0173.html

Forms Joint Task Force with HTML WG
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0070.html

Latest Action Item List:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0058.html

Action item rotation list (when no volunteers):
Dave, Erik, Keith, Joern, John, Kenneth, Lars, Leigh, MarkB, 
MarkS, Nick, Rafael, Raman, Rogelio, Sebastian, Steven, 
Susan, Ulrich, Blake, Charlie


ISSUES for XForms 1.0 and 1.1
=============================

Quick question from www-forms-editor
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0057.html

Need respondent for this www-forms question
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jul/0014.html

Removing binding property from xforms-insert and xforms-delete
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0089.html

Conclusion of email discussion on Issue 103 (submission verb vs. method)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0067.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0060.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0059.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0047.html
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=103;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Last Call Issues Needing Approval of Proposed Resolution:
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http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=76;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=77;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=78;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=80;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=81;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=83;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=15;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Group 1: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0052.html
Response: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0080.html
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=67;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=68;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Group 2: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0052.html
Response: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0080.html, 
          
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0074.html
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=70;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=71;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Group 3: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0052.html
Response: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0080.html, 
          
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0081.html
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=124;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=125;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=126;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=162;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Last Call Issues Open and Ready for Consideration:
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Let required and other MIPs affect UI control rendition
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/MIPs?id=102;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with sending value changed and MIP events
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=29;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=50;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with the use of xforms-binding-exception and 
xforms-compute-exception
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=36;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Need to define meaning of focus event on container form controls
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=155;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Nillable complex type with simple content
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=92;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Problems with dateTimeDuration and yearMonthDuration
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=7;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=137;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with datatype validation
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=85;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=86;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=87;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Problems with binding expressions changing the evaluation context of other 
attributes
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=28;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Model I18N Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=8;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=13;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

XForms select issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=88;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=89;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=90;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with functions
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=12;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=11;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=63;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=69;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=65;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=145;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=146;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=147;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Interaction with XPath 2.0
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=140;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=141;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=143;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=144;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=149;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with accessing XForms from Scripts
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=33;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=156;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Things wrong with 7.5
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=41;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=142;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

More possible errors for XPaths
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=139;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Repeat Index Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=21;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=24;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Treatment of Event Handlers inside Repeated Content
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=153;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Misc I18N Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=9;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Human Readable Resource Identifiers
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=38;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Misc Editorial
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=53;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Submission Editorial
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=46;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Submission: Problem of requiring order of submission children
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=4;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Submission: More examples desired
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=163;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1


Last Call Issues Approved, Awaiting Implementation:
---------------------------------------------------
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=18;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=60;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=73;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/MIPs?id=82;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=97;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=26;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=91;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=127;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=23;user=guest;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Other Issues
------------
Return type of choose function
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0106.html

Version attribute in test suite
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0071.html

Requirement to support dynamic dependencies in UI bindings
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0030.html

Issues with 7.5
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0010.html

Instance replacement fix needed
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0081.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0065.html

Non-selected case and non-relevant group
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0051.html

Events on startup; events for other UI creation scenarios
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0088.html

Remarks about xf:insert in XForms 1.1
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Mar/0005.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Mar/0008.html
* Resolved May 16 for John or Erik to deal with, but no action item

Remove unnecessary decision about where to insert nodes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2007JanMar/0111.html

Remove sibling attribute insertion
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2007JanMar/0114.html

Minor fix to effect of multiple node insertion on repeat indexes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2007JanMar/0115.html

Blank value and xforms:select
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0002.html

xforms:select storage
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0003.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0001.html

Required but empty
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0004.html

Strict and lax schema validation
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0097.html

Schema algorithms
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0096.html

Nillable complex type with simple content
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0009.html

Comments on if function from Michael Kay
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Dec/0062.html

Issues with deleting the context node
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Feb/0027.html
This was discussed April 4 (
http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-xforms-minutes.html#item08),
but minutes record no resolution or action.

Issues that have resurfaced but are technically out of scope
------------------------------------------------------------
Discuss 'Better definition of Form Control'

Issues with select1
1) Does a select1 visually multiselect?
2) Handling of simultaneous matching a copy item and an empty value item


ISSUES not yet categorized by version
=====================================


ISSUES for XForms 1.2, 2.0 and Beyond
=====================================

The meaning of 'form control' needs to be more rigorously defined. 
Sometimes
it includes one, some or all of repeat, group and switch.

Tighten definition of form control to fix numerous problems,
including problem of targeting help/hint at item elements
(declared and generated by nodeset)


Problem with incremental attribute setting for selection="open" 
select1/select controls
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Sep/0098.html

The meaning of message
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0013.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0012.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0011.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0010.html

The repeat-* attributes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006OctDec/0232.html

Meaning of repeated content
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JulSep/0212.html

We should allow the result of calculate to
be cast according to the assigned datatype,
e.g. no need to call boolean-from-string() if 
calculate assigns to a boolean node.

Single-Node Binding and UICommon* on case element
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Sep/0092.html

Better align case with group and switch with select1
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Sep/0115.html

Repeat and page view
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Aug/0090.html

Extended Actions
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JulSep/0073

multiple schemas targeting same namespace (unresolved when discussed at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JulSep/att-0109/20060726.html#topic15
)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JanMar/0348
  http://www.oxygenxml.com/archives/xml-dev/200209/msg00091.html
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2002Aug/0102.html
COMMENT: The spec restricts a model to one schema per namespace

Put @mediatype on textarea

Parallel trees
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Apr/0002.html

Need to distinguish types of bindings
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0099.html

See Future Featuers.


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