- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:12:37 -0700
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0035.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
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Agenda
1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is:
Sandeep Kumar, (fallbacks: Kevin Liu, Sanjiva Weerawarana,
Youenn Fablet, Jean-Jacques Moreau, Erik Ackerman,
Igor Sedukhin, Ingo Melzer, Lily Liu, Steve Lind)
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2. Approval of minutes:
- Sept 18th telcon [.1].
- Sept 22, 23, 24 (corrected) FTF [.2, .3, .4] Summary [.5]
[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/att-0177/minutes
-03-09-18.htm
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0218.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0219.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0035.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0221.html
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3. Review of Action items [.1].
? 2003-07-31: Philippe to make a proposal for fixing the
HTTP binding.
DONE [.5] 2003-09-04: Jacek to review Appendix E in light of message
removal.
? 2003-09-11: Philippe to write a response to Mark Baker
proposing a property solution to HTTP verbs
and ask whether this satisfies his request.
DONE [.2] 2003-09-18: Jonathan to put 1.2/2.0 item on FTF agenda.
DONE [.4] 2003-09-18: Dbooth to ping amy on whether she is satisfied
that the current patterns draft adequately
permits multicast.
DONE [.2] 2003-09-18: Jonathan to put #89 on FTF agenda.
? 2003-09-18: Philippe, Marsh to review the QA operational
guidelines.
DONE [.3] 2003-09-22: Sanjiva to clarify wording on op style to say
that use of uri is assertion on part of author
and if the schema doesn't match then it is an
error.
? 2003-09-22: Potential editors for media-type schema
annotation to apply to Chair.
? 2003-09-23: Philippe to recommend the wsdl 2.0 name to
Director.
? 2003-09-23: Roberto, Glen: provide a counterproposal to
the current proposal.
? 2003-09-23: ATF to describe for these style uri for
attributes.
? 2003-09-23: Core editors to include those rules in the
draft.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0140.html
[.3]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl12/wsdl12.html#RPCS
tyle
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0137.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0136.html
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4. Administrivia
a. Upcoming FTFs
- November 3-5, San Francisco (Fujitsu)
- January, Toronto or Boston
- March, March 1-2 or 4-5, Cannes-Mandelieu, France.
b. Publication plan.
c. Chair for next two telcons (Regrets from Jonathan).
d. Editor for media-type schema annotation spec.
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5. Task Force Status.
a. Properties and Features (dormant)
b. Patterns (dormant)
c. Attributes
d. QA & Testing
- Response to comments on QA Spec Guidelines [.2]
- Implement QA Operational guidelines? [.3]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0074.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html
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6. New Issues. Merged issues list [.1].
- Layered message exchange patterns defs (Youenn) [.2]
- How are features labeled as accepted or required? (Jeffrey) [.3]
- Bulk Load (Mark Baker) [.4]
- Remove message-triggers-fault rule? (Sanjiva) [.5]
- wsdlLocation copy schema text? (Sanjiva) [.6]
- is the uniquness constraint sufficient? (Sanjiva) [.7]
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy
(Note that [.1] redirects to
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html)
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0176.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0174.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0224.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0209.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0191.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0146.html
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7. Faults.
- Fault refs pointing to more than one message [.1]
- Proposal for faults [.2]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0213.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0250.html
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8. Patterns.
a. Remove multis? [.1] Add new ones? [.2]
b. Pattern description precludes Multi-cast? [.3]
- Amy suggests changing "broadcast" to "multicast" [.4]
c. Merge Part 2 back into Part 1? [.5]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0230.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0249.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0063.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0150.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0126.html
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9. Proposal for improving <documentation> [.1]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0130.html
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10. Binding message references in the component model [19, 20]
[19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0077.html
[20] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x89
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11. Appendix E cleanup [.1]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0136.html
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[Remaining items awaiting actions or proposals.]
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12. Endpoint references
- Proposal from Arthur/Umit [.1]
- Awaiting simplified proposal from Roberto/Glen
[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2003Sep/att-0071/ws-ref-
present-1.0.zip
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13. Pattern inference [.1]
(optional @pattern, optional @messageReference):
- Tabled decision on optional @pattern to future telcon.
- Tabled decision on optional @messageReference to a future telcon.
- Sanjiva proposes dropping redundant {direction} property from
the component model [.2]
- messageReference attribute is optional (inconsistent) [.3]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0172.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0210.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0127.html
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14. Optional operation/@name [.1]
Tabled decision to a future telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0178.html
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15. Issue #88 [.1] Rename "operation" to "messageExchange" (again!?).
Deferred while thread is running [.2]
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x88
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0024.html
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16. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1].
- Arthur's proposal to unify property URIs and QName URIs. [.2]
Alternatives include using property markup, or a QNamed
attribute. Awaiting more guidance text on properties and
features from Glen.
- Proposal for advertising QoS features of a Web service in WSDL [.3].
Awaiting analysis by Jonathan.
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x2
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0047.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0020.html
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17. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4]
- Jacek's synthesis [.5].
- Awaiting description from Philippe showing how properties or
extensions can be used to annotate the WSDL with RESTful
properties. Ask Mark for a definitive list of those properties
so we can consider how to associate them with property URIs or
namespaces.
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x64
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0095.html
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18. Using RDF in WSDL [.1].
Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html
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