- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:40:57 -0800
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]: See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters. If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon. [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Oct/0033.html [.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/ [.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin -------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda 1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is: Sandeep Kumar, (fallbacks: Kevin Liu, Erik Ackerman, Igor Sedukhin, Ingo Melzer, Steve Lind) -------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Approval of minutes: - Oct 23rd telcon [.1]. [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/att-0221/031023- ws-desc-irc.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Review of Action items [.1]. ? 2003-07-31: Philippe to make a proposal for fixing the HTTP binding. ? 2003-09-11: Philippe to write a response to Mark Baker proposing a property solution to HTTP verbs and ask whether this satisfies his request. ? 2003-09-18: Marsh to review the QA operational guidelines. ? 2003-09-23: Roberto, Glen: provide a counterproposal to the current proposal for endpoint references. DONE (no) 2003-10-09: JMarsh to consider adding JeffSch's suggestion to revisit naming questions later, after subtantive work is done, to future agenda. ? 2003-10-09: Bijan to look into message extensibility Issues (Appendix E, Jacek's review) wrt RDF data, and discuss with Jacek. ? 2003-10-09: Sanjiva: send email explaining rational for pattern inference. ? 2003-10-16: Amy to provide a use-case for cyclical includes. DONE [.2] 2003-10-23: JM to communicate this decision to XMLP ? 2003-10-23: JacekK to reformulate the return value RPC rule not to be broken wrt null values DONE [.3] 2003-10-23: Glen to send out expanded explanation of Features and Properties ? 2003-10-23: Part2_Editors to clarify wording in fault-replaces-message rule that a fault is GENERATED but not necessarily SENT. DONE 2003-10-23: Communicate MTOM requiremnet to JeffSch [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003Oct/0060.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0144.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Administrivia a. Membership changes: - Sandra Swearingen resignation - Lily Liu did non-resignation b. Upcoming FTFs - November 3-5, Sunnyvale [.1] (Fujitsu) Draft agenda [.2] * Add http binding topic? [.3] - January 26-30, Bedford, MA (Sonic) WSArch 26-28(noon) WSDesc 28(noon)-30 - March 1-2 or 4-5, Cannes-Mandelieu, France. b. Publication - Draft ready for approval at FTF? [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/3/05/f2fNovLogistics.htm [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0243.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0230.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 5. Task Force Status. a. Properties and Features (dormant) b. Patterns (dormant) c. Attributes d. QA & Testing - Response to comments on QA Spec Guidelines [.2] - Implement QA Operational guidelines? [.3] [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0074.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 6. New Issues. Merged issues list [.1]. - Limit to state (Mark Baker) [.2] - <infault>/<outfault> vs. <fault>. [.3] [.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy (Note that [.1] redirects to http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html) [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0150.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0177.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 7. Issue #88 [.1] Rename "operation" to "messageExchange" (again!?). Deferred while thread is running [.2] [.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x88 [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0024.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 8. Optional interface/operation/(input|output)/@messageReference That doesn't make any sense with what we have now. Proposal: Mark REQUIRED. ------------------------------------------------------------------ 9. RPC-style rules - Missing rules [.1] - Syncing rules with SOAP 1.2 RPC [.2] - Clearer statement of normativity [.3, .4] - [chair is behind in following this thread] [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0058.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0059.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0057.html [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0062.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 10. Faults. - Fault refs pointing to more than one message [.1] Waiting for a use case to motivate this requirement. - Proposal for faults [.2]; revised proposal [.3] Is this proposal still on the table? [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0213.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0250.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0051.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 11. Drop @headers - Proposal from Sanjiva [.1] - Related questions from Youenn [.2] - Request from JJM to delay one week. [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0107.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0033.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 12. Multiple inline schemas [.1] [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0074.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 13. Uniqueness on the wire - Proposal from Umit [.1] [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0112.html ==================================================================== [Remaining items awaiting actions or proposals.] ==================================================================== 15. Appendix E cleanup [.1] [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0136.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 16. Endpoint references - Proposal from Arthur/Umit [.1] - Awaiting simplified proposal from Roberto/Glen - Motivation for R131 from DaveO [.2] [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2003Sep/att-0071/ws-ref- present-1.0.zip [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0181.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 17. Pattern inference [.1] (optional @pattern, optional @messageReference): - Tabled decision on optional @pattern to future telcon. - Tabled decision on optional @messageReference to a future telcon. - Sanjiva proposes dropping redundant {direction} property from the component model [.2] - messageReference attribute is optional (inconsistent) [.3] [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0172.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0210.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0127.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 18. Optional operation/@name [.1] Tabled decision to a future telcon. [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0178.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 19. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1]. - Arthur's proposal to unify property URIs and QName URIs. [.2] Alternatives include using property markup, or a QNamed attribute. Awaiting more guidance text on properties and features from Glen. - Proposal for advertising QoS features of a Web service in WSDL [.3]. Awaiting analysis by Jonathan. [.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x2 [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0047.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0020.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 20. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4] - Jacek's synthesis [.5]. - Awaiting description from Philippe showing how properties or extensions can be used to annotate the WSDL with RESTful properties. Ask Mark for a definitive list of those properties so we can consider how to associate them with property URIs or namespaces. [.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x64 [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html [.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0095.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 21. Using RDF in WSDL [.1]. Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft. [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html
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