- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:56:03 -0700
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Oct/0013.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
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Agenda
1. Chair: David Booth
Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is:
Sandeep Kumar, (fallbacks: Kevin Liu, Sanjiva Weerawarana,
Youenn Fablet, Erik Ackerman, Igor Sedukhin, Ingo Melzer,
Lily Liu, Steve Lind)
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2. Approval of minutes:
- Oct 9th telcon [.1].
[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/att-0069/WSDesc_
minutes_20031009.htm
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3. Review of Action items [.1].
? 2003-07-31: Philippe to make a proposal for fixing the
HTTP binding.
? 2003-09-11: Philippe to write a response to Mark Baker
proposing a property solution to HTTP verbs
and ask whether this satisfies his request.
? 2003-09-18: Philippe, Marsh to review the QA operational
guidelines.
? 2003-09-23: Roberto, Glen: provide a counterproposal to
the current proposal for endpoint references.
? 2003-10-02: Editors to provide drafts for pub review a
couple of days before the Oct 16th telcon.
? 2003-10-09: Jacek to discuss Bijan's action off-line
with Bijan.
? 2003-10-09: JMarsh to consider adding JeffSch's suggestion
to revisit naming questions later, after
subtantive work is done, to future agenda.
? 2003-10-09: Glen to report on whether Sonic can hold January
f2f.
? 2003-10-09: Bijan to look into message extensibility issues
(Appendix E, Jacek's review) wrt RDF data, and
discuss with Jacek.
DONE 2003-10-09: dbooth to sync with JMarsh to make sure RPC
style rules gets added to next week's agenda
? 2003-10-09: Sanjiva: send email explaining rational for
pattern inference.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
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4. Administrivia
a. Upcoming FTFs
- November 3-5, Sunnyvale [.1] (Fujitsu)
Register [.2] before 29 Oct.
- January, Toronto or Boston
- March 1-2 or 4-5, Cannes-Mandelieu, France.
b. Publication
- Plan to approve drafts for publication today. Are they ready?
c. Editor for media-type schema annotation spec.
- Appointments will be announced next week since Chair is overseas.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/3/05/f2fNovLogistics.htm
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34650/WSADF2F/
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5. Task Force Status.
a. Properties and Features (dormant)
b. Patterns (dormant)
c. Attributes
d. QA & Testing
- [skip] Response to comments on QA Spec Guidelines [.2]
- [skip] Implement QA Operational guidelines? [.3]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0074.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html
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6. New Issues. Merged issues list [.1].
- Include cycles (Amy) [.2]
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy
(Note that [.1] redirects to
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html)
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0056.html
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7. Faults.
- Fault refs pointing to more than one message [.1]
- Proposal for faults [.2]; revised proposal [.3]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0213.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0250.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0051.html
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8. Patterns.
- Add new ones? [.1, .2]
- Problem with fault-replaces-message [.3]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0249.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0055.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0061.html
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9. RPC-style rules
- Clearer statement of normativity [.1, .2]
- Missing rules [.3]
- Syncing rules with SOAP 1.2 RPC [.4]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0057.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0062.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0058.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0059.html
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[Remaining items awaiting actions or proposals.]
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10. Appendix E cleanup [.1]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0136.html
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11. Endpoint references
- Proposal from Arthur/Umit [.1]
- Awaiting simplified proposal from Roberto/Glen
[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2003Sep/att-0071/ws-ref-
present-1.0.zip
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12. Pattern inference [.1]
(optional @pattern, optional @messageReference):
- Tabled decision on optional @pattern to future telcon.
- Tabled decision on optional @messageReference to a future telcon.
- Sanjiva proposes dropping redundant {direction} property from
the component model [.2]
- messageReference attribute is optional (inconsistent) [.3]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0172.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0210.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0127.html
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13. Optional operation/@name [.1]
Tabled decision to a future telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0178.html
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14. Issue #88 [.1] Rename "operation" to "messageExchange" (again!?).
Deferred while thread is running [.2]
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x88
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0024.html
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15. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1].
- Arthur's proposal to unify property URIs and QName URIs. [.2]
Alternatives include using property markup, or a QNamed
attribute. Awaiting more guidance text on properties and
features from Glen.
- Proposal for advertising QoS features of a Web service in WSDL [.3].
Awaiting analysis by Jonathan.
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x2
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0047.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0020.html
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16. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4]
- Jacek's synthesis [.5].
- Awaiting description from Philippe showing how properties or
extensions can be used to annotate the WSDL with RESTful
properties. Ask Mark for a definitive list of those properties
so we can consider how to associate them with property URIs or
namespaces.
[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x64
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0095.html
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17. Using RDF in WSDL [.1].
Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html
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