- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:06:12 -0800
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]: See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters. If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon. [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Mar/0003.html [.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/ [.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin -------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda 1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is: Jeff Mischkinsky (fallbacks Umit Yalcinalp, Steve White, Erik Ackerman, Lily Liu, Steve Graham, Steve Tuecke, Waqar Sadiq, Bill Stumbo, Amy Lewis) -------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Approval of minutes of Feb 27 telcon [.1]. Kevin sent late regrets. Minutes [.2, .3] of the FTF, and the summary [.4] thereof. (correction to summary: add ACTION: Editors MEP to add an issue to address request-response MEP.) [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0119.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0017.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0018.html [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0019.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Review of Action items [.1]. ? 2003-01-21: Roberto and gudge to create a branch and work up a binding proposal based on referencing type systems directly from operation components. (Umit's example, Sanjiva's example, WSDL 1.1 example, and others.) ? 2003-01-30: Jacek to write up text on SOAP response MEP after Gudge and Jeffrey send their proposal for request/response MEP. ? 2003-02-13: Arthur to propose improvements to the URL replacement mechanism. ? 2003-02-13: Philippe to re-do HTTP bindings to allow per-method operation names etc. Arthur to assist. DONE [.2] 2003-02-27: Philippe to push public draft out. ? 2003-02-27: Editors to capture the "XMLP WG thinks we should describe attachments" issue. ? 2003-02-27: Sanjiva to send summary of one-portType-per-service issue. ? 2003-03-04: Editors will review specification guidelines by 18 March. ? 2003-03-04: Chair and team will review operational guidelines by 18 March. ? 2003-03-04: Editors to discuss markup for testable assertions in the spec and come back with a strategy. ? 2003-03-04: Jonathan to recruit a QA contact for the WG. ? 2003-03-04: Jonathan to recruit a test contact for the WG. ? 2003-03-04: Editors of the MEPs to record in that document our intention that a CR requirement be that MEPs that prove their utility will be left in. The "utility" metric is that a binding (not necessarily from this group) which makes use of that MEP be intereroperable between two vendors. ? 2003-03-04: Editors MEP to add an issue to address request-response MEP ? 2003-03-04: Editors MEP to suggest meaningful names for our MEPs ? 2003-03-04: Editors to rename MEP spec to Part 2, old Part 2 becomes Part 3. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions [.2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-wsdl12-20030303/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Administrivia a. May FTF [.1] b. Part 2 issues. Suggest editors propose both some low hanging fruit, and some juicy morsels for the WG to consider. c. Usage Scenarios [.2]. Jonathan's still pretending to track this. d. QA contact recruitment. e. Test contact recruitment. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2003/ws/desc/3/05/f2fMayLogistics.htm [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Jan/0054.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 5. New Issues. Merged issues list [.1]. - HTTP Binding examples and clarifications [.2] [.1] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0113.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Patterns. a. We discussed (but did not resolve) adding a MEP8 to differentiate between generic input-output patterns and request-response. Suggest a task force to explore this issue and document the pros and cons of the possible approaches. b. Soliciting rationale for each pattern [.1] [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0016.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Properties and Features. What more detail do we need in part 1 in regards to features and properties? What should we do with the PFTF? What do we need to do to part 2? -------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. Issue 28: transport='uri' [.1] Dependent upon Glen's feature/property proposal. Can we entertain a property-based proposal now? [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x28 -------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1]. Jean-Jacques proposal at [.2]. Jacek's addendum at [.3]. Dependent upon Glen's feature/property proposal. Can we entertain a property-based proposal now? [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x2 [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0050.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0056.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- 10. BindingType proposal from Kevin [.1]. Updated proposal at [.2]. Do we still have "hard" dependencies? [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Aug/0009.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0068.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- 11. HTTP Binding Issues (6a, 41, etc.) Big question: how much do we want to work on this [.1]. Jeffrey's summary and recommendations (no change) [.2]. Awaiting proposals from Arthur and Phillippe. [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0025.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jun/0102.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- 12. Removing message. Umit's posting on the value of part as an abstract concept of WSDL [.1]. Sanjiva asks for more rationale as to why his proposal did not fly [.2], and suggests that inheritance and overloading go together [.3]. Roberto's original proposal at [.4]. Direction suggested by Dale [.5] Postponed until we have a little better idea of what our bindings will look like. Gudge's responses [.6, .7] to Umit's examples [.8] [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0011.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0020.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0014.html [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0035.html [.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Dec/0040.html [.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0006.html [.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0013.html [.8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0005.html - Jonathan
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