- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:06:12 -0800
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Mar/0003.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
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Agenda
1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is:
Jeff Mischkinsky (fallbacks Umit Yalcinalp, Steve White,
Erik Ackerman, Lily Liu, Steve Graham, Steve Tuecke,
Waqar Sadiq, Bill Stumbo, Amy Lewis)
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2. Approval of minutes of Feb 27 telcon [.1]. Kevin sent late regrets.
Minutes [.2, .3] of the FTF, and the summary [.4] thereof.
(correction to summary: add ACTION: Editors MEP to add an issue
to address request-response MEP.)
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0119.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0017.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0018.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0019.html
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3. Review of Action items [.1].
? 2003-01-21: Roberto and gudge to create a branch and work up
a binding proposal based on referencing type
systems directly from operation components.
(Umit's example, Sanjiva's example, WSDL 1.1
example, and others.)
? 2003-01-30: Jacek to write up text on SOAP response MEP after
Gudge and Jeffrey send their proposal for
request/response MEP.
? 2003-02-13: Arthur to propose improvements to the URL
replacement mechanism.
? 2003-02-13: Philippe to re-do HTTP bindings to allow
per-method operation names etc. Arthur to
assist.
DONE [.2] 2003-02-27: Philippe to push public draft out.
? 2003-02-27: Editors to capture the "XMLP WG thinks we should
describe attachments" issue.
? 2003-02-27: Sanjiva to send summary of
one-portType-per-service issue.
? 2003-03-04: Editors will review specification guidelines by
18 March.
? 2003-03-04: Chair and team will review operational guidelines
by 18 March.
? 2003-03-04: Editors to discuss markup for testable assertions
in the spec and come back with a strategy.
? 2003-03-04: Jonathan to recruit a QA contact for the WG.
? 2003-03-04: Jonathan to recruit a test contact for the WG.
? 2003-03-04: Editors of the MEPs to record in that document our
intention that a CR requirement be that MEPs that
prove their utility will be left in. The
"utility"
metric is that a binding (not necessarily from
this
group) which makes use of that MEP be
intereroperable
between two vendors.
? 2003-03-04: Editors MEP to add an issue to address
request-response MEP
? 2003-03-04: Editors MEP to suggest meaningful names for our
MEPs
? 2003-03-04: Editors to rename MEP spec to Part 2, old Part 2
becomes Part 3.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-wsdl12-20030303/
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4. Administrivia
a. May FTF [.1]
b. Part 2 issues. Suggest editors propose both some low hanging
fruit, and some juicy morsels for the WG to consider.
c. Usage Scenarios [.2]. Jonathan's still pretending to track this.
d. QA contact recruitment.
e. Test contact recruitment.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2003/ws/desc/3/05/f2fMayLogistics.htm
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Jan/0054.html
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5. New Issues. Merged issues list [.1].
- HTTP Binding examples and clarifications [.2]
[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0113.html
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6. Patterns.
a. We discussed (but did not resolve) adding a MEP8 to
differentiate between generic input-output patterns and
request-response. Suggest a task force to explore this issue
and document the pros and cons of the possible approaches.
b. Soliciting rationale for each pattern [.1]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0016.html
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7. Properties and Features. What more detail do we need in part 1
in regards to features and properties? What should we do with
the PFTF? What do we need to do to part 2?
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8. Issue 28: transport='uri' [.1]
Dependent upon Glen's feature/property proposal. Can we
entertain a property-based proposal now?
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x28
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9. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1].
Jean-Jacques proposal at [.2].
Jacek's addendum at [.3].
Dependent upon Glen's feature/property proposal. Can we
entertain a property-based proposal now?
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x2
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0050.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0056.html
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10. BindingType proposal from Kevin [.1]. Updated proposal at [.2].
Do we still have "hard" dependencies?
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Aug/0009.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0068.html
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11. HTTP Binding Issues (6a, 41, etc.)
Big question: how much do we want to work on this [.1].
Jeffrey's summary and recommendations (no change) [.2].
Awaiting proposals from Arthur and Phillippe.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0025.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jun/0102.html
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12. Removing message. Umit's posting on the value of part as an
abstract concept of WSDL [.1]. Sanjiva asks for more rationale
as to why his proposal did not fly [.2], and suggests that
inheritance and overloading go together [.3]. Roberto's original
proposal at [.4]. Direction suggested by Dale [.5]
Postponed until we have a little better idea of what our bindings
will look like. Gudge's responses [.6, .7] to Umit's examples [.8]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0011.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0020.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0014.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0035.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Dec/0040.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0006.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0013.html
[.8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Feb/0005.html
- Jonathan
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