- From: Noah Mendelsohn <nrm@arcanedomain.com>
- Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:50:04 -0400
- To: "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>
- CC: Amy van der Hiel <amy@w3.org>
The agenda for the TAG teleconference of 15 March is available at [1,2] and
in text-only form below.
Please note that the main focus will be refinement of our priorities for
the F2F. I have gathered into that section of the agenda [3] a "working
list of agenda topics", based mostly on the advice I received last week.
Please look it over before the call, and either send suggestions in e-mail
or be prepared to discuss.
Also: particularly given that some of our F2F attendees will be busy at
IETF the week before, it would be very helpful if lengthy contributions to
the required reading list were ready by, say, 21 March. In any case, please
alert me as early as you can to anything you'd like on the required reading
list.
Thank you.
Noah
[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/03/15-agenda
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly
[3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/03/15-agenda#F2Fplanning
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[1] http://www.w3.org/
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/
[3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/03/08-agenda
[4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/03/15-agenda
[5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/03/22-agenda
Agenda of 15 March 2012 TAG Teleconference
Nearby: [6]TAG work plan - [7]Teleconference details -
[8]issues list - [9]open actions - [10]pending review actions -
[11]www-tag archive - [12]tag archive
1. Convene
+ Chair: Noah Mendelsohn, Scribe: Peter Linss
(unconfirmed)
+ Roll call -- Regrets: None
+ Future regrets: None
+ Agenda Review - [13]this agenda
+ Next Meeting: 22 March 2012, Chair: Noah Mendelsohn
+ Future scribes: Peter Linss - > Robin Berjon - > Yves
Lafon
2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s)
+ [14]minutes of 8 March 2012
3. Administrative items
+ Jonathan Rees will be able to attend the F2F
+ Is there anything we need to do re: upcoming Paris
IETF meeting?
+ Please start preparing work for and thinking about
significant agenda items for April F2F
+ Make your travel arrangements for April F2F ([15]local
arrangements page)
+ Chair solicits guidance on level of TAG interest in
issues like the proposed [16]http+aes URI scheme
4. IETF Paris Meeting
+ Goals:
o Do any necessary planning for TAG participation
in IETF/Paris
+ Background:
o [17]ACTION-638: on - Yves Lafon - Help Noah
figure out best ways, if at all, for TAG to
participate in IETF paris - Due: 2012-02-15 -
OPEN
o [18]ACTION-659: on - Yves Lafon - Track IETF
efforts on HTTP 2.0 & SPDY Due: 2012-03-20 - Due:
2012-03-20 - OPEN
o [19]ACTION-566: on - Yves Lafon - Investigate
possible liaison or meeting with IETF (maybe IAB)
on privacy - Due: 2012-01-24 - OPEN
o [20]ACTION-602: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Work with
IETF liaisons to propose possible TAG
participation in IETF Paris - Due: 2012-03-13 -
PENDING REVIEW (Note that per [21]ACTION-638 Yves
now has the lead for this)
5. F2F Planning
+ Goals:
o Provide input to the chair on planning for the
F2F, including:
# Technical items for the agenda
# Possible changes to meeting logistics
# Anything else relating to making the TAG
more effective that should be considered in
planning the F2F
o Start to identify required reading
+ Chair's working list of likely agenda topics (based
mostly on [22]discussion on 8 March 2012:
o Top priority topics:
# IETF Meeting debrief — Yves with help from
Larry and others
# Meet with Chris Lilley to discuss RFC
3023bis and fragid semantics
@ Noah has [23]invited Chris per
[24]ACTION-674: on - Noah Mendelsohn -
encourage Chris Lilley to meet with us
to discuss 3023bis and semantics of
Fragment Identifiers - Due: 2012-03-16
- OPEN
@ [25]ACTION-675: on - Henry Thompson -
frame discussion of semantics of
fragids and rfc 3023bis - Due:
2012-03-27 - OPEN
# Note that we were informed on 8 March that
there is unlikely to be other progress on
the related TAG Product [26]TAG Product:
Fragment Identifiers and Mime Types. We will
not have technical discussion on that, but
since it's supposedly high priority, we'll
want to figure out in Sophia whether we're
still committed to the goals and schedules
specified for this project.
# Publishing and linking:
@ Goal is to agree to publish working
draft
@ We'll devote extensive time to this
topic as needed
@ Jeni suggests we may want to do careful
walkthrough and discuss examples
@ There was a suggestion last week that
we might want to invite guests for this
session. Do we?
# URI Definition Discovery and httpRange-14:
we're hoping for more responses to the call
for change proposal
# API Minimization: expecting draft from Robin
for required reading
# Client-side storage: hoping for draft from
Ashok for required reading
# Validating TAG priorities for next 3-6
months (as we do at the end of every
meeting)
o Other "definite" topics:
# None so far.
o Maybe we'll also put time into some of these:
# PhiloWeb 2012: note [27]Web and Philosophy:
why and what for? (PhiloWeb 2012) Workshop
at the 21st World Wide Web Conference (WWW
2012)
# Review [28]open TAG issues and [29]pending
review TAG issues
o The chair notes that he has received conflicting
advice on whether to reserve time for breakout
working sesions — will do his best to find some
appropriate compromise.
+ Background carried over from [30]8 March 2012 agenda
(note that the action status and due dates are as of
then):
o [31]TAG Work Plan
o Jeni Tennison [32]suggests some changes regarding
length of sessions, splitting into parallel
working sessions, etc.
o Items TAG members have asked to discuss:
# Jeni has [33]requested time for some
combination of:
@ [34]ACTION-541: on - Jeni Tennison -
Helped by DKA to produce draft on
technical issues relating to
copyright/linking - Due: 2012-02-21 -
OPEN;
@ [35]ACTION-627: on - Noah Mendelsohn -
Schedule very detailed line-by-line
review of Pub&Linking draft at January
F2F - Due: 2012-01-31 - OPEN
@ [36]ACTION-649: on - Jeni Tennison -
Produce a document with examples
motivating the technical points in the
Copyright/Linking document - Due:
2012-03-20 - OPEN
# [37]ACTION-662: on - Robin Berjon - Redraft
proposed product page on API Minimization
(http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/products/apimini
mization.html) - Due: 2012-01-31 - PENDING
REVIEW
# Client-side storage
# [38]ACTION-673: on - Jonathan Rees - Prepare
for F2F discussion of httpRange-14 change
proposals Due 2012-03-13 - Due: 2012-03-13 -
OPEN
o Some other items that might belong on the F2F
Agenda:
# Noting that Chris Lilley lives not far from
our meeting site, one or more of the
following:
@ [39]ACTION-564: on - Henry Thompson -
Track fragid issues in 3023bis, report
to TAG and/or communicate with 3023bis
editors as appropriate - Due:
2012-02-14 - OPEN
@ [40]ACTION-594: on - Yves Lafon - With
Peter and Henry produce partial
revision of fragment id finding - Due:
2012-03-13 - OPEN
@ [41]ACTION-619: on - Henry Thompson -
Report on status of 3023bis after TPAC
- Due: 2012-02-14 - OPEN
@ [42]ACTION-628: on - Henry Thompson -
Work with Chris Lilley to bring forward
prose for 3023bis wrt generic
processing of fragment identifiers
which addresses the rdf+xml and
xhtml+xml issues - Due: 2012-02-14 -
OPEN
@ Registries: but note [43]ACTION-667: on
- Noah Mendelsohn - Check, when
publishing and linking wraps, whether
it's time to reinvest in
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/12/evol
ution/Registries.html - Due: 2012-04-01
- OPEN which suggests we're defering
this until publishing and linking wraps
@ [44]ACTION-635: on - Henry Thompson -
Update product page for Frag IDS and
Mime types, to include realistic goals
and dates - Due: 2012-02-14 - OPEN
# XML/HTML Unification — need to check with
Norm Walsh whether there's likely to be
anything new to discuss
# [45]ACTION-672: on - Jeni Tennison - Work
with PLH to create W3C-sponsored registry of
HTML extensions, and get that referenced
from HTML media type registration, per
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
2012Jan/0048.html Due: 2012-05-29 - Due:
2012-05-29 - OPEN
# [46]ACTION-560: on - Henry Thompson - Review
HTML polyglot last call Due 2011-06-06 -
Due: 2012-02-28 - OPEN
# [47]ACTION-572: on - Yves Lafon - Look at
appcache in HTML5 - Due: 2012-03-06 - OPEN
# Protocols
@ [48]ACTION-658: on - Yves Lafon -
Prepare telcon discussion of
protocol-related issues, e.g.
Websockets/hybi (but not SPDY) - Due:
2012-03-20 - OPEN
@ [49]ACTION-659: on - Yves Lafon - Track
IETF efforts on HTTP 2.0 & SPDY Due:
2012-03-20 - Due: 2012-03-20 - OPEN
# TAG effectiveness:
@ We could have a session on TAG
effectiveness overall, or we might
consider one or more sessions on more
focused topics, e.g. deciding to
abandon some of our lower priority
efforts so that we can focus more
effectively on higher priority work.
o [50]Pending review actions in [51]Tracker
o [52]Overdue actions in [53]Tracker
6. HTML.next
+ Goals:
o Decide whether Noah's [54]report on previous TAG
issues with HTML motivates us to do more thinking
about HTML.next
+ Background:
o [55]ACTION-641: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Try and
find list of review issues relating to HTML5 from
earlier discussions - Due: 2012-03-01 - PENDING
REVIEW
o Noah's [56]report on previous TAG issues with
HTML (fulfilling ACTION-641) lists:
# [57]March 2009 TAG status report
highlighting HTML-related issues that the
TAG was considering then
# [58]Detailed table of HTML issues from
[59]Sept. 2009 TAG F2F: this is a table in
which we gathered many potential concerns.
We then selected a few as high priority for
futher work.
o Earlier background on HTML.next:
# [60]Karl DuBost and [61]Paul Cotton suggest
the following resources relating to
HTML.next:
@ Aug HTML WG thread on HTML.next and
re-chartering:
[62]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public
/public-html/2011Aug/0263.html
@ The Nov HTML WG F2F HTML.next
discussions:
[63]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public
/public-html-wg-announce/2011OctDec/001
1.html
@ The HTML WG Wiki list of possible
HTML.Next items:
[64]http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/next
@ Mike Smith's list of candidate items:
[65]http://www.w3.org/2011/Talks/TPAC/H
TML5/#(15)
@ Proposed Community Group
([66]http://www.w3.org/community/groups
/proposed/#html5spec)
# [67]ACTION-637: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Ask
PLH to join us in Dec. to bring us up to
speed on HTML.next, and also join in F2F
discussion - Due: 2011-12-20 - CLOSED
7. Web Application Storage
+ This is a continuation of the [68]discussion started
on 26 January 2012and [69]revisited on 1 March 2012
+ Goals:
o Commit to a plan for TAG work on Web Application
Storage including goals, deliverables as proposed
in [70]Draft Product page for TAG work on Web
Application Storage
+ Background:
o [71]Discussion of Web Application Storage on 1
March 2012
o [72]Discussion of Web Application Storage on 26
January 2012
o [73]ACTION-647: on - Ashok Malhotra - Draft
product page on client-side storage focusing on
specific goals and success criteria Due:
2012-01-17 - Due: 2012-02-14 - PENDING REVIEW
o [74]ACTION-572: on - Yves Lafon - Look at
appcache in HTML5 - Due: 2012-03-06 - OPEN
o Earlier background:
# [75]ACTION-632: on - Ashok Malhotra - Frame
issues around client-side storage work -
Due: 2012-02-14 - CLOSED
# [76]ACTION-475: on - Ashok Malhotra - Write
finding on client-side storage, DanA to
review - Due: 2011-08-24 - CLOSED
# [77]ACTION-523: on - Ashok Malhotra - (with
help from Noah) build good product page for
client storage finding, identifying top
questions to be answered on client side
storage - Due: 2012-01-17 - CLOSED
# [78]ACTION-354: on - Ashok Malhotra - Review
client side storage apis (web simple storage
etc.), looking for architectural issues or
other critical problems... or interesting
design features the TAG should know about -
Due: 2010-03-08 - CLOSED
# [79]ACTION-392: on - NON-CURRENT-MEMBER -
Look into using new client side storage APIs
as an RDFa or tabulator data store - Due:
2010-03-17 - CLOSED
# [80]ACTION-435: on - Jonathan Rees - Consult
Tyler Close regarding UMP-informed web
storage vulnerability analysis - Due:
2010-06-22 - CLOSED
# [81]ACTION-438: on - Ashok Malhotra -
Comment to web storage guys: basically all
of this is origin-based, but section 6.1 has
a 'may' - - is this a door being held open
for CORS? - Due: 2010-06-15 - CLOSED
# [82]ACTION-586: on - Ashok Malhotra - Add
text covering advice equivalent to "Use of
AJAX implementation technology is not a
sufficient excuse for failing to provide
first class URI identification for documents
on the Web" - Due: 2011-08-11 - CLOSED
8. Pending Review Items:
+ [83]Pending review actions in [84]Tracker
9. Overdue Action Items:
+ [85]Overdue actions in [86]Tracker
10. Any other business
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[6] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/products/
[7] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#telcon
[8] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues
[9] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/open
[10] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
[11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
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[37] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/662
[38] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/673
[39] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/564
[40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/594
[41] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/619
[42] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/628
[43] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/667
[44] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/635
[45] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/672
[46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/560
[47] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/572
[48] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/658
[49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/659
[50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
[51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue?sort=owner
[53] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[54] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2012Feb/0099.html
[55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/641
[56] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2012Feb/0099.html
[57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/sum03.html#html
[58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssuesRevised.pdf
[59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/23-minutes.html#item02
[60] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2011Dec/0054.html
[61] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2011Dec/0055.html
[62] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Aug/0263.html
[63]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011OctDec/0011.html
[64] http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/next
[65] http://www.w3.org/2011/Talks/TPAC/HTML5/#(15
[66] http://www.w3.org/community/groups/proposed/#html5spec
[67] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/637
[68] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/01/26-minutes#item04
[69] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/03/01-minutes.html#item03
[70]
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/products/clientsidestorage-2012-01-24.html
[71] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/03/01-minutes.html#item03
[72] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/01/26-minutes#item04
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[74] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/572
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[76] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/475
[77] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/523
[78] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/354
[79] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/392
[80] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/435
[81] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/438
[82] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/586
[83] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
[84] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[85] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue?sort=owner
[86] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
Noah Mendelsohn for the TAG
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