- From: Noah Mendelsohn <nrm@arcanedomain.com>
- Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:50:04 -0400
- To: "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>
- CC: Amy van der Hiel <amy@w3.org>
The agenda for the TAG teleconference of 15 March is available at [1,2] and in text-only form below. Please note that the main focus will be refinement of our priorities for the F2F. I have gathered into that section of the agenda [3] a "working list of agenda topics", based mostly on the advice I received last week. Please look it over before the call, and either send suggestions in e-mail or be prepared to discuss. Also: particularly given that some of our F2F attendees will be busy at IETF the week before, it would be very helpful if lengthy contributions to the required reading list were ready by, say, 21 March. In any case, please alert me as early as you can to anything you'd like on the required reading list. Thank you. Noah [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/03/15-agenda [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly [3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/03/15-agenda#F2Fplanning =================================================== [1]W3C | [2]TAG | Previous: [3]8 March 2012 This: [4]15 March 2012 Next: [5]22 March 2012 [1] http://www.w3.org/ [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ [3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/03/08-agenda [4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/03/15-agenda [5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/03/22-agenda Agenda of 15 March 2012 TAG Teleconference Nearby: [6]TAG work plan - [7]Teleconference details - [8]issues list - [9]open actions - [10]pending review actions - [11]www-tag archive - [12]tag archive 1. Convene + Chair: Noah Mendelsohn, Scribe: Peter Linss (unconfirmed) + Roll call -- Regrets: None + Future regrets: None + Agenda Review - [13]this agenda + Next Meeting: 22 March 2012, Chair: Noah Mendelsohn + Future scribes: Peter Linss - > Robin Berjon - > Yves Lafon 2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s) + [14]minutes of 8 March 2012 3. Administrative items + Jonathan Rees will be able to attend the F2F + Is there anything we need to do re: upcoming Paris IETF meeting? + Please start preparing work for and thinking about significant agenda items for April F2F + Make your travel arrangements for April F2F ([15]local arrangements page) + Chair solicits guidance on level of TAG interest in issues like the proposed [16]http+aes URI scheme 4. IETF Paris Meeting + Goals: o Do any necessary planning for TAG participation in IETF/Paris + Background: o [17]ACTION-638: on - Yves Lafon - Help Noah figure out best ways, if at all, for TAG to participate in IETF paris - Due: 2012-02-15 - OPEN o [18]ACTION-659: on - Yves Lafon - Track IETF efforts on HTTP 2.0 & SPDY Due: 2012-03-20 - Due: 2012-03-20 - OPEN o [19]ACTION-566: on - Yves Lafon - Investigate possible liaison or meeting with IETF (maybe IAB) on privacy - Due: 2012-01-24 - OPEN o [20]ACTION-602: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Work with IETF liaisons to propose possible TAG participation in IETF Paris - Due: 2012-03-13 - PENDING REVIEW (Note that per [21]ACTION-638 Yves now has the lead for this) 5. F2F Planning + Goals: o Provide input to the chair on planning for the F2F, including: # Technical items for the agenda # Possible changes to meeting logistics # Anything else relating to making the TAG more effective that should be considered in planning the F2F o Start to identify required reading + Chair's working list of likely agenda topics (based mostly on [22]discussion on 8 March 2012: o Top priority topics: # IETF Meeting debrief — Yves with help from Larry and others # Meet with Chris Lilley to discuss RFC 3023bis and fragid semantics @ Noah has [23]invited Chris per [24]ACTION-674: on - Noah Mendelsohn - encourage Chris Lilley to meet with us to discuss 3023bis and semantics of Fragment Identifiers - Due: 2012-03-16 - OPEN @ [25]ACTION-675: on - Henry Thompson - frame discussion of semantics of fragids and rfc 3023bis - Due: 2012-03-27 - OPEN # Note that we were informed on 8 March that there is unlikely to be other progress on the related TAG Product [26]TAG Product: Fragment Identifiers and Mime Types. We will not have technical discussion on that, but since it's supposedly high priority, we'll want to figure out in Sophia whether we're still committed to the goals and schedules specified for this project. # Publishing and linking: @ Goal is to agree to publish working draft @ We'll devote extensive time to this topic as needed @ Jeni suggests we may want to do careful walkthrough and discuss examples @ There was a suggestion last week that we might want to invite guests for this session. Do we? # URI Definition Discovery and httpRange-14: we're hoping for more responses to the call for change proposal # API Minimization: expecting draft from Robin for required reading # Client-side storage: hoping for draft from Ashok for required reading # Validating TAG priorities for next 3-6 months (as we do at the end of every meeting) o Other "definite" topics: # None so far. o Maybe we'll also put time into some of these: # PhiloWeb 2012: note [27]Web and Philosophy: why and what for? (PhiloWeb 2012) Workshop at the 21st World Wide Web Conference (WWW 2012) # Review [28]open TAG issues and [29]pending review TAG issues o The chair notes that he has received conflicting advice on whether to reserve time for breakout working sesions — will do his best to find some appropriate compromise. + Background carried over from [30]8 March 2012 agenda (note that the action status and due dates are as of then): o [31]TAG Work Plan o Jeni Tennison [32]suggests some changes regarding length of sessions, splitting into parallel working sessions, etc. o Items TAG members have asked to discuss: # Jeni has [33]requested time for some combination of: @ [34]ACTION-541: on - Jeni Tennison - Helped by DKA to produce draft on technical issues relating to copyright/linking - Due: 2012-02-21 - OPEN; @ [35]ACTION-627: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Schedule very detailed line-by-line review of Pub&Linking draft at January F2F - Due: 2012-01-31 - OPEN @ [36]ACTION-649: on - Jeni Tennison - Produce a document with examples motivating the technical points in the Copyright/Linking document - Due: 2012-03-20 - OPEN # [37]ACTION-662: on - Robin Berjon - Redraft proposed product page on API Minimization (http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/products/apimini mization.html) - Due: 2012-01-31 - PENDING REVIEW # Client-side storage # [38]ACTION-673: on - Jonathan Rees - Prepare for F2F discussion of httpRange-14 change proposals Due 2012-03-13 - Due: 2012-03-13 - OPEN o Some other items that might belong on the F2F Agenda: # Noting that Chris Lilley lives not far from our meeting site, one or more of the following: @ [39]ACTION-564: on - Henry Thompson - Track fragid issues in 3023bis, report to TAG and/or communicate with 3023bis editors as appropriate - Due: 2012-02-14 - OPEN @ [40]ACTION-594: on - Yves Lafon - With Peter and Henry produce partial revision of fragment id finding - Due: 2012-03-13 - OPEN @ [41]ACTION-619: on - Henry Thompson - Report on status of 3023bis after TPAC - Due: 2012-02-14 - OPEN @ [42]ACTION-628: on - Henry Thompson - Work with Chris Lilley to bring forward prose for 3023bis wrt generic processing of fragment identifiers which addresses the rdf+xml and xhtml+xml issues - Due: 2012-02-14 - OPEN @ Registries: but note [43]ACTION-667: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Check, when publishing and linking wraps, whether it's time to reinvest in http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/12/evol ution/Registries.html - Due: 2012-04-01 - OPEN which suggests we're defering this until publishing and linking wraps @ [44]ACTION-635: on - Henry Thompson - Update product page for Frag IDS and Mime types, to include realistic goals and dates - Due: 2012-02-14 - OPEN # XML/HTML Unification — need to check with Norm Walsh whether there's likely to be anything new to discuss # [45]ACTION-672: on - Jeni Tennison - Work with PLH to create W3C-sponsored registry of HTML extensions, and get that referenced from HTML media type registration, per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/ 2012Jan/0048.html Due: 2012-05-29 - Due: 2012-05-29 - OPEN # [46]ACTION-560: on - Henry Thompson - Review HTML polyglot last call Due 2011-06-06 - Due: 2012-02-28 - OPEN # [47]ACTION-572: on - Yves Lafon - Look at appcache in HTML5 - Due: 2012-03-06 - OPEN # Protocols @ [48]ACTION-658: on - Yves Lafon - Prepare telcon discussion of protocol-related issues, e.g. Websockets/hybi (but not SPDY) - Due: 2012-03-20 - OPEN @ [49]ACTION-659: on - Yves Lafon - Track IETF efforts on HTTP 2.0 & SPDY Due: 2012-03-20 - Due: 2012-03-20 - OPEN # TAG effectiveness: @ We could have a session on TAG effectiveness overall, or we might consider one or more sessions on more focused topics, e.g. deciding to abandon some of our lower priority efforts so that we can focus more effectively on higher priority work. o [50]Pending review actions in [51]Tracker o [52]Overdue actions in [53]Tracker 6. HTML.next + Goals: o Decide whether Noah's [54]report on previous TAG issues with HTML motivates us to do more thinking about HTML.next + Background: o [55]ACTION-641: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Try and find list of review issues relating to HTML5 from earlier discussions - Due: 2012-03-01 - PENDING REVIEW o Noah's [56]report on previous TAG issues with HTML (fulfilling ACTION-641) lists: # [57]March 2009 TAG status report highlighting HTML-related issues that the TAG was considering then # [58]Detailed table of HTML issues from [59]Sept. 2009 TAG F2F: this is a table in which we gathered many potential concerns. We then selected a few as high priority for futher work. o Earlier background on HTML.next: # [60]Karl DuBost and [61]Paul Cotton suggest the following resources relating to HTML.next: @ Aug HTML WG thread on HTML.next and re-chartering: [62]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public /public-html/2011Aug/0263.html @ The Nov HTML WG F2F HTML.next discussions: [63]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public /public-html-wg-announce/2011OctDec/001 1.html @ The HTML WG Wiki list of possible HTML.Next items: [64]http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/next @ Mike Smith's list of candidate items: [65]http://www.w3.org/2011/Talks/TPAC/H TML5/#(15) @ Proposed Community Group ([66]http://www.w3.org/community/groups /proposed/#html5spec) # [67]ACTION-637: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Ask PLH to join us in Dec. to bring us up to speed on HTML.next, and also join in F2F discussion - Due: 2011-12-20 - CLOSED 7. Web Application Storage + This is a continuation of the [68]discussion started on 26 January 2012and [69]revisited on 1 March 2012 + Goals: o Commit to a plan for TAG work on Web Application Storage including goals, deliverables as proposed in [70]Draft Product page for TAG work on Web Application Storage + Background: o [71]Discussion of Web Application Storage on 1 March 2012 o [72]Discussion of Web Application Storage on 26 January 2012 o [73]ACTION-647: on - Ashok Malhotra - Draft product page on client-side storage focusing on specific goals and success criteria Due: 2012-01-17 - Due: 2012-02-14 - PENDING REVIEW o [74]ACTION-572: on - Yves Lafon - Look at appcache in HTML5 - Due: 2012-03-06 - OPEN o Earlier background: # [75]ACTION-632: on - Ashok Malhotra - Frame issues around client-side storage work - Due: 2012-02-14 - CLOSED # [76]ACTION-475: on - Ashok Malhotra - Write finding on client-side storage, DanA to review - Due: 2011-08-24 - CLOSED # [77]ACTION-523: on - Ashok Malhotra - (with help from Noah) build good product page for client storage finding, identifying top questions to be answered on client side storage - Due: 2012-01-17 - CLOSED # [78]ACTION-354: on - Ashok Malhotra - Review client side storage apis (web simple storage etc.), looking for architectural issues or other critical problems... or interesting design features the TAG should know about - Due: 2010-03-08 - CLOSED # [79]ACTION-392: on - NON-CURRENT-MEMBER - Look into using new client side storage APIs as an RDFa or tabulator data store - Due: 2010-03-17 - CLOSED # [80]ACTION-435: on - Jonathan Rees - Consult Tyler Close regarding UMP-informed web storage vulnerability analysis - Due: 2010-06-22 - CLOSED # [81]ACTION-438: on - Ashok Malhotra - Comment to web storage guys: basically all of this is origin-based, but section 6.1 has a 'may' - - is this a door being held open for CORS? - Due: 2010-06-15 - CLOSED # [82]ACTION-586: on - Ashok Malhotra - Add text covering advice equivalent to "Use of AJAX implementation technology is not a sufficient excuse for failing to provide first class URI identification for documents on the Web" - Due: 2011-08-11 - CLOSED 8. Pending Review Items: + [83]Pending review actions in [84]Tracker 9. Overdue Action Items: + [85]Overdue actions in [86]Tracker 10. 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