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Re: [css-inline] Summary of drop-caps/initial-letters discussion

From: Tony Graham <tgraham@mentea.net>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 12:58:07 +0100 (IST)
Message-ID: <59412.95.45.132.7.1400587087.squirrel@squirrelmail.webfaction.com>
To: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
Cc: "James Clark" <jjc@jclark.com>, "fantasai" <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>, "Dave Cramer" <dauwhe@gmail.com>
On Tue, May 20, 2014 12:22 pm, Dave Cramer wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 5:34 PM, James Clark <jjc@jclark.com> wrote:
>> I agree that's the right behaviour for the Latin script. But what about
>> other scripts? It seems to me the real challenge in defining drop-caps
>> for
>> CSS is in handling non-Latin scripts.
>
> Absolutely. I would love to see some examples from other scripts. Even the
> examples in the current ED of CSS Inline show CJK initials set in Latin
> text.  JLREQ doesn't seem to have examples; I was told that it focuses on
> novels, which don't use that effect very much.

JLReq includes [2]:

  A drop heading is frequently used in Shinsho-ban (Japanese
  non-fiction paperback style, 105mm*173mm)

so it might be that cut-in headings are used in novels rather than JLReq
being mostly about novels, which I've never thought to be the case
(otherwise it wouldn't have had to pay as much attention to, e.g.,
horizontal writing mode, illustrations, or tables).

I've checked JIS X 4051 and JLReq, and as I said on Friday [1], neither
covers drop caps as such (but do cover cut-in headings), so it's not part
of 'regular' Japanese layout, but that doesn't stop people doing it just
for effect.

I also can't find anything about either drop caps or cut-in headings in
KLReq, but as you're at the CSS F2F in Seoul, you're currently well placed
to talk to people about both Korean and Japanese practices.

Regards,


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[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014May/0175.html
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#processing_of_cutin_heading
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