- From: Sylvain Galineau <sylvaing@microsoft.com>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:58:41 +0000
- To: John Hudson <tiro@tiro.com>
- CC: "www-font@w3.org" <www-font@w3.org>
>From: www-font-request@w3.org [mailto:www-font-request@w3.org] On Behalf >Of John Hudson >It is less obvious that it is in Microsoft's interests, insofar as it is >less to their advantage than an EOT-derived solution. On the other hand, >its not as if they would be losing EOT, and the backwards compatibility >factor remains in their favour in the market place. There will be a >market for EOT format web font licensing to address that backwards >compatibility, alongside of a market for .webfont licensing to support >newer versions of browsers. A general comment. This discussion should be neither limited nor driven by the narrow interests of Microsoft, Mozilla and Opera. In the short term a free interoperably implemented EOT-compatible solution is also in the interest of hundreds of millions of users as well as font designers since it would jumpstart the marketplace as no current proposal could. For authors, while interop issues would remain around @font-face until a future IE release, they would be able to license and serve one font file to all web clients. Even though I've spent most of my career competing against Microsoft, I still cannot understand why anything should be discounted mainly (or even partly) because it appears to be in Microsoft's interest without due consideration for the opportunity costs of such obstruction on the wider ecosystem. 'EOT-Lite' is likely the most productive option for the next five years. And it most certainly does not preclude working on EOT-Lite's long-term successor. Microsoft, for one, never stated that there should be no such effort or working group. Or that we were willing to wait five years to see what happens. Quite the contrary. Were EOT-Lite difficult or expensive to implement, I could understand others may not want to invest in it. Given that we are now talking about skipping over a well-defined header at the beginning of a font file - once you remove MTX and rootstrings, that is all that is left - implementation costs cannot possibly be the issue. That it is convenient for Microsoft will not make EOT-Lite or equivalents any less effective in terms of achieving interop and maximizing author choice. Why should the latter be subordinated to Microsoft's short-term interests as perceived by its competitors ? The alternative involves a working group - standard or ad-hoc - but this can only work if all browser vendors participate and commit to implementing the result. So far, it's still not clear all would. And, frankly, very doubtful should Microsoft agree to support raw font linking. It has also been suggested that Microsoft support raw font linking. As most font vendors tell us they would not license raw fonts for web use and most web authors - never mind EOT's penetration thus far - tell us they need a cross-browser solution, this option puts technical interoperability above author choice and gets us no closer to opening up commercial font catalogs for web use. Bottom line: while it is valuable to analyze the interest of browser vendors in understanding how we got there and why we're stalled, we should assess the options according to the interests of web authors and font creators. And hold all browser vendors accountable for the results. Or lack thereof.
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