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From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
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Subject: Re: Mozilla Proposal for HTML5 Spec Licence

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Sam Ruby wrote:
> On 04/14/2011 05:51 AM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> > On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Steve Faulkner wrote:
> > > 
> > > But what we do have now is 2 specifications both claiming to be HTML5
> > > that are not in agreement.
> > 
> > The WHATWG spec is just HTML, not HTML5. There's a whole section (the
> > first section) that goes to quite some length to explain this.
> That section isn't as clear as it could be:
>   http://tinyurl.com/3bpapzm
> "Is this HTML5?  ... In short: Yes."
> Additionally, it would be wonderful if the following site were updated to
> reflect the position that the WHATWG spec doesn't describe HTML5:
>   http://developers.whatwg.org/

That site describes what authors think of as HTML5. The confusion around 
that name is unfortunate, but the reality is that the term has several 
meanings, one referring to specifications (such as old versions of some of 
the WHATWG specs, and to the current W3C draft), and one to a marketing 
term tha covers many topics.

> A concrete example of a point where this creates confusion:
>   http://developers.whatwg.org/links.html#ping
> ... which was dropped from HTML5 by amicable consensus:
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Mar/0132.html

It was dropped from the W3C draft. It wasn't dropped from what authors 
think of as "HTML5" (which also includes things like SVG, Geolocation, 
and any manner of other things).

For developer-facing non-normative documentation, the WHATWG is likely to 
continue using the term "HTML5" for some time, but it really has nothing 
to do with the W3C draft.

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