- From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu>
- Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:10:51 -0500
- To: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
> >WAI UA Telecon for August 23th, 2001 >Present: >Jon Gunderson - jg >David Poehlman - dp >Jim Allan - ja (scribe) >Gregory Rosmaita - gr > >Announcements > > 1.User Agent FTF Meeting at Microsoft on 13-14 September 2001 hosted by >Microsoft (Redmond, WA) > >Review Action Items > 1.JG: Talk about JG's tool and EARL integration at WAI CG. - not done > > 2.JG: Netscape version 6.X (newest) by next Tuesday - not done, working >on improving report software > > 3.GR: Contact Dolphin - no luck, called a few times. they are busy with >beta. Will have telecon block for AT at F2F. > > 4.DP: Contact Freedom box, Ion Systems. done > > 5.RS: Find out whether anyone from HPR or Multimedia groups can attend. >_ will attend > > 6.TL: Review initial implementation report for IE and comment - ??? > > 7.DP: Review HPR by next Tuesday - done, JG working on format > > 8.JA: Review Real media player by next Tuesday. - still working > > 9.HB: Review Opera 5.12 by next Tuesday - done > > 10.LG: Review Accrobat Reader by next Tuesday - done > >gr: editor of module of AU technique document. review of report by company >is critical, 10 days time to review-then made public, errors corrected, and >manufacturer comments included. >jg: talked with Judy Brewer about reviews. No formal policy yet. Review can >change at any time. What does group want. sent do company first or make >public first then review. >jg: in AU is there a procedure >gr: talking about setting a procedure, in response to feedback after TR. AU >wants to take procedure to committee as a model. review is completed by >following a set of tasks to get consistency or review. then put it database >(xml/xsl) in future. current reviews are html, and pass/fail ratings. want >more regimented performance evaluation for product comparison. >jg: not formally saying you have 2 weeks >gr: right, would like to make it formal >jg: Judy will bring this issue to Coordination Group and W3. >gr: also good for QA activities > >Discussion > > 1.SVG comments - SVG has commented (not public yet) - this is a hold up >for CR > >jg: key components for CR >documenting implementation experience >for no implementation, develop timeline for when we expect to have >implementation >hoping to do this by first week of September (not likely) >with f2f meeting, get feedback from developers about implementation >timelines. so reality is late September for CR. >Only advantage for CR is (people could still send comments, but document is >frozen) >if no implementation for all requirements - extend CR for some time then >move to PR >or, drop requirement, and go back to last call for comments about dropping >requirement, then move to PR >we want to get implementation and move on. > > 2.User agent FTF meeting > Update on participation - 12 people registered. Still trying to >get someone from Netscape/Mozilla to come, only one AT developer registered >(Madenta), will have telecon for AT developers (Henter-Joyce and GW Micro). >Still a gap from multimedia folks (Microsoft will come, but no response from >Real networks). Microsoft, IBM, HP (Lee Bateman) will be coming. Need to set >telecon times - AT compatibility and Multimedia Checkpoints. > >**Action JG set telecon times - AT compatibility and Multimedia >(Audio/Video) Checkpoints (Thursday- early morning) >draft agenda by next week > Agenda > 1.Assistive technology compatibility > 2.Automated testing for built-in accessibility features - >Microsoft is working on this. > 3.Multi-media player implementation issues > 4.Demos: Adobe, Trident-IE6, Multi-media players > Telephone bridge >gr: O'Shea is working on unified glossary and is interested in our >terminology >** JG add other implementation issues (from implementation report) to f2f >meeting > > 3.Implementation report > http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/implementation/report-cr2.html >gr: review implementation report and sent comments. when going through >detail view, found comments to be confusing. >jg: yes comments need to make sense out of context. >gr: all comments should be "positive" "negative" or "NA" >jg: comments depend on checkpoint, not to detailed, list things that are >missing. developed a list of conditional content. will be cleaning up IE >review. >jg: removing view by score. will be using review by "rating", max >conformance column = C for conformance, average conformance column - to get >an idea of what checkpoints are giving developers the most problem. New >style sheet. will be a link to take to comments from general report. >gr: also in summary view, since there is expectation that document is >stabilized. if short one liner of checkpoint text should link to actual >check point. >jg: working on it. >gr: concern about proliferation of short mnemonics with out link to actual >content. public perception will be short mnemonic. >dp: problem with template in IE, it looks like code. >jg: it is supposed to look like code. HB wants to modify DTD to make it >easier to edit. goal: windows or Java application to do editing. have GR or >DP have experience using windows access bridge for java. >dp: there are problems with edit interaction. can read but no editing >gr: still difficult >jg: if I were to develop simple tool (prefer Java to run anywhere) with >simple interface to edit. add comments to previous review. how to comment on >a comment. >gr: discuss with HB, use of url assertions. Sean Palmer can show how to do >this. >jg: how does this work >gr: works with rdf triplets. can pull out comparisons between different >comments/reviewers. can filter >jg: is assertion included in report or point to something else >gr: yes. would be good to have separate document. and pass off to EARL. >jg: will talk with Palmer about how to do this. would be good for people to >review comments. good idea. need to understand more about assertions. >jg: need to assign new reviews. need multimedia players. >dp: do you still need Openbook review. >jg: there is a new voice browser, WeMedia. www.webspeakster.com need to >test version 2.0 >gr: was going look at voice in/out browser from university of Geneva (two >weeks) >**action dp and gr - review windows media player, and may look at >webspeakster >gr: difficulty because only using 1 hand. > > Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services MC-574 College of Applied Life Studies University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign 1207 S. 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