- From: Denis Anson <danson@miseri.edu>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 00:46:48 -0700
- To: "Ian B. Jacobs" <ij@w3.org>, <jferraio@adobe.com>, <lilley@w3.org>, <dean@w3.org>, <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
Ian, I think that there may be other reasonable scenarios as well. There are two components to the issue of time dependent links for the person with cognitive limitations: the first is reaction time (can I activate the link before it disappears), and the second is recognition time (can I tell that there is a link there before it disappears). A person with cognitive issues will likely have involvement in both compnents of this issue. As a result, various scenarios may "appear" a bit different. In scenario 1, where the links are presented without context, it might be very difficult to connect the link with its intended action, since the mental processes that provide meaning to the link are not operating *at the time* of the link. In scenario 2, the process of manually advancing provides an additional cognitive load that might make it impossile to process the information being provided. In scenario 3, the stopping for a link would indicate to the user that some input is needed, and would cue that links should be examined. (Additionally, in many cases, the user would know that the link was about to disappear, so would be cued to look for links on the objects that are about to pass out of view.) To some extent, the issues of processing time are handled by checkpoints 4.4 and 4.5, which allow slowed presentation and rewind capabilities. The remaining issue is to assure that the user knows that a link is there. For a static document, you can tab through active elements, so the fact that you can navigate to an element tells you that it is active. One of the big issues that we are dealing with here is the time required to recognize and respond to a link in a multimedia presentation. So, an additional way to deal with the issue might be to be able to configure the user agent so that it highlights animated links in a way that the user will choose, and presents the animation slower when a link is on the screen, combined with the ability to rewind to pick up a link that just went past. (This is already P1 in 4.5) A user style sheet, if style sheets had the ability to control rendering of the SVG presentation, might do the job. Denis Anson -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Ian B. Jacobs Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:20 AM To: jferraio@adobe.com; lilley@w3.org; dean@w3.org; w3c-wai-ua@w3.org Subject: [Issue 516] Is ordered rendering required to satisfy checkpoint 2.4? Hello, After the 19 July teleconference, I spoke with Dean Jackson about issue 516 [2]: "2.4: Checkpoint doesn't make sense for SMIL 2.0". In the 14 July draft [3], the first provision of the checkpoint is: "For content where user input is only possible within a finite time interval controlled by the user agent, allow configuration to make the time interval "infinite". Do this by pausing automatically at the end of each time interval where user input is possible, and resuming automatically after the user has explicitly completed input." At the 19 July teleconference, there was a proposal to delete the second sentence. It was suggested that a sufficient technique would be to allow time-independent interaction. I'd like to examine three scenarios more closely: Scenario 1: The user agent renders content with no time line. All content is independent of time and is unordered (except for document order). All interaction is possible immediately (since there is no time line). This is like an HTML document or an SVG document where the animation elements have been ignored. For the next two scenarios, imagine a presentation that may be paused and resumed manually by the user (like a videocassette player). The user may interact with the document (e.g., links, user focus events, etc.) in either the paused or play state. Scenario 2: Time line, but no automatic advance. In this scenario, nothing happens automatically: the user must step through the entire presentation manually. Thus, order is preserved, and all time intervals are infinite since the user advances manually. This would "solve" the problem we are trying to solve, but would probably be unwieldly because the user would have to step through the entire presentation. Scenario 3: Time line, with semi-automatic advance. In this scenario, the animation proceeds until there is a finite amount of time for user interaction. In this scenario, the desired user agent behavior is to pause automatically to allow for user input, and resume automatic play upon explicit request from the user. (There is a fourth scenario: the user agent should follow the timing and rendering rules of the specification. Of course, the UA should do that in general, except for where we require additional functionality.) I was under the impression by the end of the 19 July teleconf that people may have been satisfied with some variation on the first scenario, but it may not have been clear what the implications are: order is lost, and that may mean substantial loss of meaning. I do not think that this is the proper scope of the checkpoint, as the semantics of the presentation should be preserved as much as possible. I am interested in feedback from the Working Group about which scenario they expected checkpoint 2.4 to cover. It may be possible to rewrite 2.4 to cover scenario 3, but still to remove the technique for pausing infinitely. I welcome suggestions on how to preserve order and remove time-dependence. -------------------------- On implementing scenario 3 -------------------------- Dean and I talked about ways in which an SVG viewer might implement the third scenario. We talked about the implementation having two components (for the purposes of this discussion): an animation engine and a user interface component. As I understand the model, the viewer operates as follows: a) The animation engine's job is to calculate positions of graphical objects. For each increment on the time line, the animation engine calculates the position of each displayed object. b) After the animation engine has calculated positions, the user interface component redraws the objects at their new positions. c) Loop until done. Here's how we imagined it would be feasible to implement scenario 3. It assumes that there's a mechanism that allows the user to manually pause and resume a presentation. 1) The animation engine knows when it's at the end of a time interval. After all, it uses this information as part of its calculations to determine the position of graphical objects. 2) When the animation engine is at the end of a time interval, it calculates which animated elements will be affected. This is known through markup (either by parent/child relationship or by href). Furthermore, the only elements we are interested in here are those that are known by specification to have associated behaviors. The animation can designate a set of elements using xpath, for example. 3) The animation engine tells the UI component to pause the user agent and highlight the elements that are affected. 4) Thus, the user agent automatically enters "paused mode", allowing the user to interact with links, etc (some of which have been highlighted to emphasize that they are time-dependent). The user can manually resume the presentation when the user wishes. I am interested in feedback from developers about whether this makes sense. - Ian [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2001JulSep/0136 [2] http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc3.html#516 [3] http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/WD-UAAG10-20010714/ -- Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs Cell: +1 917 450-8783
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