- From: Paul Tykodi <ptykodi@tykodi.com>
- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 06:28:22 -0500
- To: <howard_leicester@btconnect.com>
- Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, "'Jonathan Avila'" <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
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Hi Howard, The customer I am currently assisting is definitely focused on providing a good customer experience to all via the web. My opinion is that without some basic regulatory guidelines in place, it is very difficult for an organization to know what accessibility capabilities it should include in a web site. That being said, I completely agree with both your comment and Jonathan's as well. I do believe that more effort needs to be focused on insuring that content formats used in building web pages are accessible and ultimately the whole reason for undertaking the effort is to provide an acceptable web experience for all users. I agree with your observation that working together as a global community, it would seem to make sense to focus some attention on how to make the process of building fully accessible web pages simpler than it is today. Thanks. Best Regards, /Paul -- Paul Tykodi Principal Consultant TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820 Mobile: 603-866-0712 E-mail: <mailto:ptykodi@tykodi.com> ptykodi@tykodi.com WWW: <http://www.tykodi.com/> http://www.tykodi.com This e-mail reply and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Tykodi Consulting Services LLC immediately by replying to this message and destroying all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you From: Howard Leicester [mailto:howard_leicester@btconnect.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 4:17 PM To: 'Jonathan Avila' <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com> Cc: ptykodi@tykodi.com; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: RE: PDF's Exposed via Web Pages and Accessibility Thanks Jon, I appreciate that there are folk with seious passionate on accessibility. Not so convinced we (around the world) really deliver. 508 requirements are US based. We're less focussed in the UK on something so specific, except W3C/WAI approaches. All seems complicated, anyway, and what actually achieves (regardless of standard compliance)? Think, actually, we should (internationally) work together and make things as simple as possible - not the case so far! Makes even more sense in the UK (and US etc?) because > 50% of the adult population have "literacy proplems". That, plus widespread use of mobiles/tablets, sure makes 'accessibility' a mainstream issue?!! Big thanks, Howard ---------------------------- Dr Howard Leicester +44 (0)7789 965202 www.accessible-info.co.uk <http://www.accessible-info.co.uk> _____ From: Jonathan Avila [mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com] Sent: 05 January 2016 20:43 To: howard_leicester@btconnect.com <mailto:howard_leicester@btconnect.com> Cc: ptykodi@tykodi.com <mailto:ptykodi@tykodi.com> ; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Subject: Re: PDF's Exposed via Web Pages and Accessibility Howard, I won't jump into the PDF vs. HTML discussion but I will say the issues regarding CMS content applies to other document and content formats as well and is a general issue this need to be addressed. Jon Sent from my iPhone On Jan 5, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Howard Leicester <howard_leicester@btconnect.com <mailto:howard_leicester@btconnect.com> > wrote: Hi Jonathan et al, Interesting exploration. Wondering if any 508 solution actually serves the perpuse of being accessible for those who need it. I'm from the UK and think, possibly, over concern with formal standards may miss the true ability to make websites and e-documents as truly accessible as they might be. Perhaps what I'm saying is: * What do you find useful? * And * Who is really benefitting? No worries, but extra best, Howard ---------------------------- Dr Howard Leicester T: (UK) 01959 523770 www.accessible-info.co.uk <http://www.accessible-info.co.uk> _____ From: Jonathan Avila [mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com] Sent: 05 January 2016 17:47 To: ptykodi@tykodi.com <mailto:ptykodi@tykodi.com> ; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Subject: RE: PDF's Exposed via Web Pages and Accessibility * I have been reviewing the proposed refresh of the United States of America Section 508 regulation, which specifically calls out using PDF/UA when embedding PDF files into web pages: http://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/a bout-the-ict-refresh Based on my questions to the Access Board during the public hearing, the Board indicated authors can choose to use PDF/UA or WCAG for PDF document conformance. Yes, you are correct that a mechanism should be in place to allow the promotion of compliant content and block non-compliant content. Within PDF/UA some items still must be manually tested as the standard cannot be validated completely by an automated tool. Products like our Accessibility Management Platform can scan websites and identify and test PDF documents for a number of automatic checks - one of which could be the PDF/UA designation. API access is also available on various platforms to allow a CMS to upload a file for review to get a response. Best Regards, Jonathan Jonathan Avila Chief Accessibility Officer SSB BART Group jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com <mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com> 703.637.8957 (o) Follow us: <http://www.facebook.com/#!/ssbbartgroup> Facebook | <http://twitter.com/#!/SSBBARTGroup> Twitter | <http://www.linkedin.com/company/355266?trk=tyah> LinkedIn | <http://www.ssbbartgroup.com/blog> Blog | <http://eepurl.com/O5DP> Newsletter From: Paul Tykodi [mailto:ptykodi@tykodi.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 11:58 AM To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Subject: PDF's Exposed via Web Pages and Accessibility Hi, I am currently working on a Customer Communications Management architecture project for a financial services firm. One of the issues I have been asked to investigate, from an architectural perspective, is the use of PDF files embedded within a publicly available web page. I have been reviewing the proposed refresh of the United States of America Section 508 regulation, which specifically calls out using PDF/UA when embedding PDF files into web pages: http://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/a bout-the-ict-refresh In looking at this issue from an architectural perspective, it seems like placing some form of validator in the delivery channels from PDF creator to web page delivery would likely be necessary to insure all PDF's made available for web page deployment were PDF/UA compliant. I am hoping that subscribers to this W3C list with experience in this area might be able to comment on best practices for embedding PDF files in web pages and maintaining accessibility conformance (Examples: WCAG 2.0 and the ISO Standard known as PDF/UA) going forward. Thanks. 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