- From: Jim Ley <jim@jibbering.com>
- Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:13:24 -0000
- To: "WAI \(E-mail\)" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
"SHARPE, Ian": > Not sure about screen read accessible but certainly not IE with ignore > colors accessiblity checkbox checked. Menus drop and overlap other text > making them unreadable. That is a User Agent problem, indeed with that setting and stylesheets enabled, all CSS-P fails, it's nothing to do with javascript, it's CSS-P (you probably think it's related to javascript, as this is one of the few areas where CSS-P is used.) There are two UA solutions to the problems "ignore colours" sets CSS-P background to the same as the background the user wants unless the background is set to transparent. Or the UA disables CSS-P when that setting is set. There is also a user solution, not to use the ignore colours option, but to use a custom stylesheet which will not have the same problem, and provide the same functionality. > Lynx ignores them also. As do all script unaware browsers, menus should be accessible without scripting, that's already established. > My opinion is that > javascript menus are bad practice and their use should be avoided at all > costs. What's wrong with the heading link navigating to a separate page > contain the dropped links together with additional helpful information eh? > Another round trip? Not good enough I'm affraid!! It may be accessible, but it is certainly not very usable, round trips are very expensive, lots of visible links are intimidating, a 10 second roundtrip to get to the "dropped links" is completely unacceptable, as is the 200% increase in bandwidth IMO. You may be happy with that level of usability, but most people are not. > A link's a link, not > something which causes other links to appear when you move a pointer over > it!! A link is an Hypertext context, how your user agent chooses to deal with that concept is something that is between you and your user agent, if your user agent chooses to provide interfaces to make that do other things in response to author suggestions, it is not the authors fault for using those suggestions - you do have control over the rendering of the page. Script, like CSS, like colours, are just suggestions - feel free to ignore them. In any case the two are not mutually exclusive - e.g http://www.rcslt.org/ > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are > solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of > SchlumbergerSema. > If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this > email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or > copying of this email is strictly prohibited. I've chosen to ignore all this as it is inappropriate garbage, please let me know if I should actually take notice, and perform the actions specified? Jim.
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