RE: Propose deleting failure for 3.2.5

I'm a bit concerned about making a decision yet. I didn't notice any
responses to questions I raised
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006JanMar/0440.html. I
could live with deleting the SC if it's true that it's completely
covered by timeout. But not all the techniques that map to 3.2.5
http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=How_to_Meet_Success_Crit
erion_3.2.5 have also been mapped to a timeout SC. Those techniques have
been accepted by the group. If we believe all those techniques can
reasonably be mapped to something under 2.2, then I could see removing
it; otherwise, I think we're being too hasty. I think it's a stretch to
map some of those techniques, so at least for the moment I continue to
believe we should not remove the SC.

 

Michael

 

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From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Gregg Vanderheiden
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:23 PM
To: 'Cynthia Shelly'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: RE: Propose deleting failure for 3.2.5

 

OK

 

Seems like timeout would cover it anyway if it were a problem.  

 


Gregg

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	From: Cynthia Shelly [mailto:cyns@exchange.microsoft.com] 
	Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:22 PM
	To: Gregg Vanderheiden; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
	Subject: RE: Propose deleting failure for 3.2.5

	You could.  But, I haven't seen this much in the real world,
except in response to user action (Iike clicking a button).  As long as
it's in response to user action, I don't think it's an accessibility
problem.  I just don't think it's common enough to qualify as a "common"
failure.  

	 

	
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	From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu] 
	Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:06 PM
	To: Cynthia Shelly; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
	Subject: RE: Propose deleting failure for 3.2.5

	Couldn't you do it in script?  Or Flash?  Or Director?
Applets?  

	 

	
	Gregg
	
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	Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
	Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
	Director - Trace R & D Center 
	University of Wisconsin-Madison 
	The Player for my DSS sound file is at http://tinyurl.com/dho6b
<http://tinyurl.com/cmfd9> 

	 

		 

		
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		From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org
[mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Cynthia Shelly
		Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:05 PM
		To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
		Subject: Propose deleting failure for 3.2.5

		At least for HTML, the only ways I know of to "create a
complete change of main content through an automatic refresh" are to use
meta-refresh or script.  Both can be disabled in browsers.  Are there
other technologies that have these issues?  If so, we could create a
general technique about it.  If not, then I don't think this is a common
failure for HTML, and I propose that we delete it.

		 

	
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change_of_main_content_through_an_automatic_update_that_the_user_cannot_
disable