- From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
- Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 12:19:44 -0700
- To: "public-ws-policy@w3.org" <public-ws-policy@w3.org>
Agenda: WS-Policy WG distributed meeting 41 - 2007-05-16 The phone number to use for the WS-Policy WG meetings is documented on the WG's administrative home page: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#phone Participants are invited to join IRC channel #ws-policy as documented on the WG's administrative home page. Please register with Zakim: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html 1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair a) Scribe List: Prasad Yendluri (scribe Wed May 16) ---------------------- Dimitar Angelov Sanjiva Weerawarana Ruchith Fernando Tom Jordahl Vladislav Bezrukov Symon Chang Doug Davis Jacques Durand Steve Jones Mohammad Makarechian Jonathan Marsh Arnaud Meyniel Sanjay Patil Skip Snow Jeff Mischkinsky Sanka Samaranayake Chris Ferris Mark Little Glen Daniels William Henry Toufic Boubez Anthony Nadalin Daniel Roth Fabian Ritzmann Sergey Beryozkin Charlton Barreto David Orchard Ashok Malhotra Abbie Barbir Maryann Hondo Dale Moberg Monica Martin Felix Sasaki Asir Vedamuthu Frederick Hirsch Mark Temple-Raston Dale Moberg Paul Knight Yakov Sverdlov b) Scribe FAQ (Updated) Member only: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html 2. Review and approval of WG minutes, Chair a) Review and approval of draft May 9 minutes http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-ws-policy-minutes.html 3. Future WG meetings, Chair a) Future meetings http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#meetings b) Wed-Fri May 23-25 F2F meeting in Ottawa hosted by Nortel http://www.w3.org/2007/05/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html Status: WG will meet Wed-Thu and CR interop testing will be done Wed-Fri. Note: Registration closed on May 11. c) Tue-Thu Jul 17-19 F2F meeting in Dublin hosted by Iona http://www.w3.org/2007/07/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html 4. Editorial team report Current Editors drafts: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/#drafts a) Editorial plan for Issue 3989 See plan in the following report: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0102.html b) Primer Editor's draft http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0079.html Status: WG Review due at F2F meeting. 5. Review action items, Chair Open action items: Member only: http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/open ACTION-279 Chris And Paul to engage Bob Freund on Tom\\\\'s points Status: In progress. ACTION-286 Maryann to work with Tom and Monica and anyone else interested in developing assertion author guidelines related to nested policy vis a vis this new understanding of nested policy vocabulary Status: Pending. On-going discussion. ACTION-292 Monica and David O to evaluate whether a new issue needs to be contributed for 4414 Status: Expecting a proposal for May 16 meeting. ACTION-294 Ashok to open a CR issue with text to define "collection" Pending? http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0062.html DONE. See: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4552 ACTION-295 Asir to open a CR issue to address the first item in message 2007May/0002. ACTION-297 Asir to provide an proposal that adds an example to 4.5 Policy Intersection that calls out the non-matching case from Ashok\\'s email ACTION-298 David Orchard to open an issue related to the scalability of intersection in the face of nested policy ACTION-299 Chris Ferris to respond to WS-A regarding the WS-P WG feedback on their Metadata spec DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0147.html 6. What is the Vocabulary of an Intersected Policy, Ashok http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0065.html Dan's reply: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0009.html Felix's reply: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0093.html ACTION-297 Asir to provide an proposal that adds an example to 4.5 Policy Intersection that calls out the non-matching case from Ashok\\'s email 7. Issue 4544: policy vocabulary, will not be applied, oh my! Chris Ferris NOTE: Because I seem to have taken an interest and position on this, I will have Paul chair this agendum. Chris filed new issue: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4544 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0003.html Monica's questions: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0012.html Chris's most recent proposal: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0055.html (monster thread ensues) Chris's follow-up addressing some of the questions: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0097.html Status: We will pick up the discussion from where we left off on May 9. I will update this item with pertinent threads before May 16. 8. WS-Policy Call for Implementations, Chair a) Interop scenarios i) Release-1-20070322 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0114.html ii) Release-2-20070501 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0010.html and http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/interop/?only_with_tag=Release-2-20070501 b) CR dashboard summary http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/interop/results/dashboard-summary.html?only_with_tag=Release-1-20070322 c) ACTION-290 Ashok to open an issue for the namespace problems in the WSDL 1.1 external attachment tests DONE. http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4522 Asir's reply: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0051.html d) Other interop related items 9. CR issues a) Comments on "normal form" of policy expressions, David Hull http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0000.html b) Collections: Sets, bags or something else? David Hull http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0001.html Asir's reply: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0007.html ACTION-294 Ashok to open a CR issue with text to define "collection" DONE. See: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4552 c) Editorial issues, David Hull http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0002.html Asir's reply: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0006.html ACTION-295 Asir to open a CR issue to address the first item in message 2007May/0002. d) [Bug 4553] Exact meaning of "all of the assertions in both alternatives" http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4553 e) [Bug 4554] Configurability and comformance of intersection algorithm http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4554 f) [Bug 4555] Should policy intersection be called policy intersection? http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4555 10. Liaison items a) Feedback to WS-Addressing WG on Web Services Addressing 1.0 - Metadata specification Email to WS-A WG: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Feb/0153.html Status: WS-Addressing WG response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0007.html See thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0012.html Our response to WS-A reply: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0147.html b) Previous WG discussion Tactical: ACTION-271 Asir to pick up the text pointed out by Chris in Section 3.2 and answer Ashok\\'s question (by reading the letter of the law) DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0017.html Strategic: ACTION-270 Maryann to work with monica, asir, ashok and others to prepare proposal for some text in the guidelines doc that addresses the semantics of a constraint as it applies to nested policy DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0022.html Status: Apr 11: The WG agreed to have email discussion of this message. c) Action items from Apr 18 discussion ACTION-283 Chris to send email with the example he gave discussing the role of policy vocabulary after intersection DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0103.html ACTION-284 Asir to start email thread to develop proposal for def\\\\'ns of policy vocabulary and policy alternative vocabulary and nested policy vocabulary and also provide example DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0106.html See Ashok's reply with Infoset definition: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0110.html ACTION-285 Monica to initiate thread related to the role of context for nested policy DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0105.html ACTION-286 Maryann to work with Tom and Monica and anyone else interested in developing assertion author guidelines related to nested policy vis a vis this new understanding of nested policy vocabulary Status: Pending more discussion. d) New WG discussion threads discussed at Apr 25 meeting i) Policy Framework and Policy Domain division of labor, and the 'absent policies are present as negations' principle, Dale Moberg http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0075.html d) WS-Addressing Metadata issues: 4374, 4375, and 4376 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0044.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0045.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0046.html Status: This issues are on hold until the WS-A WG makes more progress. ACTION-279 Chris and Paul to engage Bob Freund on Tom's points about WS-Addressing Metatdata work Status: In progress. 11. Guidelines issues, Part 1 a) ISSUE 3978: Clarify if Section 7 on defining new policy attachment mechanisms is necessary, Dan Roth http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3978 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0102.html ACTION-259 Maryann Hondo to provide a revised proposal for Issue 3978. DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0112.html ACTION-273 Maryann to send a diff version of the proposed changes to the Guidelines document re issue 3978 DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0016.html b) ISSUE 4074: [Guidelines] Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues, Dan http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html ACTION-260 Maryann Hondo to provide revised proposal for 4074 DONE. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0020.html 12. Guideline issues, Part 2 a) ISSUE 3988: Section 8 doesn't illustrate how to design an assertion., Asir http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3988 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0112.html Email discussion thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0000.html Status: Awaiting progress on new EDs with best practices reflected 13. Any other business 14. Adjournment Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3 Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329 mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com
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