- From: Christopher B Ferris <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:29:39 -0500
- To: public-ws-policy@w3.org
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Agenda: WS-Policy WG distributed meeting 26 - 2007-02-07
The phone number to use for the WS-Policy WG F2F is documented on the WG's
administrative home page:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#phone
Participants are invited to join IRC channel #ws-policy as documented on
the WG's administrative home page. Please register with Zakim:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html
1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair
a) Scribe List:
Sergey Beryozkin (Secretary for Feb 7)
Dimitar Angelov
Sanjiva Weerawarana
Ruchith Fernando
Jeffrey Crump
Tom Jordahl
Vladislav Bezrukov
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Jeff Mischkinsky
Abbie Barbir
Ashok Malhotra
Charlton Barreto
Sanka Samaranayake
David Orchard
Yakov Sverdlov
Ümit Yalçinalp
Asir Vedamuthu
Maryann Hondo
Dale Moberg
Chris Ferris
Mark Little
Monica Martin
Glen Daniels
William Henry
Toufic Boubez
Frederick Hirsch
Felix Sasaki
Prasad Yendluri
Anthony Nadalin
Daniel Roth
Fabian Ritzmann
b) Scribe FAQ (Updated)
Member only:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html
2. Review and approval of f2f and telcon minutes, Chair
a) Review and approval of 2007-01-31 minutes
Draft minutes (member only):
http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-ws-policy-minutes.html
b) Review and approval of 2007-01-16, 2007-01-17, 2007-01-18 minutes,
Chair
Draft minutes (member only):
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Jan/0014.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Jan/0015.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Jan/0017.html
Status: See Umit's requested correction:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Feb/0000.html
3. Future WG meetings, Chair
a) Next distributed meeting is Wed Feb 14 - Chair is PaulC
b) Future meetings
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#meetings
c) Tue-Thu Mar 13-15 F2F meeting in Santa Clara hosted by webMethods
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Jan/0000.html
http://www.w3.org/2007/03/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html
Note: Please register as early as possible.
d) Wed-Fri May 23-25 F2F meeting in Ottawa hosted by Nortel
http://www.w3.org/2007/05/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html
Note: Logistics page is not yet available.
e) Tue-Thu Jul 24-26 F2F meeting in Dublin hosted by Iona
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html
Note: Logistics page is not yet available.
ACTION-189 William Henry to put a proposal page for the July F2F in
Ireland
4. Editorial team report
Current Editors drafts:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/#drafts
a) WS-Policy Candidate Recommendation Editor's drafts, Editors
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0208.html
Status: WG members have until Wed Feb 7 to review these documents.
5. Review action items, Chair
Open action items:
Member only:
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/open
ACTION-183 OPEN Research ownership of "Contoso"
name/trademark.[4103] Asir Vedamuthu 2007-02-06
ACTION-189 OPEN Put a proposal page for the July F2F in Ireland
William Henry 2007-02-27
ACTION-192 OPEN Give proposal for changes resulting from 4142
Maryann Hondo 2007-01-23
ACTION-193 OPEN Propse guidelines text. Maryann and Monica to
help. Ashok Malhotra 2007-01-23
ACTION-196 OPEN to add example outlined in e
http://www.w3.org/2007/01/16-ws-policy-irc#T22-21-59 to be added to primer
Frederick Hirsch 2007-01-30
ACTION-201 OPEN Create a concrete proposal for 4255 William
Henry 2007-02-07
ACTION-202 OPEN Followup with the SX TC if they are requesting
additional time to do LC review for policy Christopher Ferris
2007-01-25
ACTION-203 OPEN Will create test cases for xml:id Felix
Sasaki 2007-02-07
ACTION-204 OPEN Will create test cases for xml:base Christopher
Ferris 2007-02-07
ACTION-209 OPEN glendaniels will create test cases for the policy
MIME type, see
http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-ws-policy-minutes.html#action06 Glen
Daniels 2007-02-07
ACTION-210 OPEN Update the meeting schedule at the admin HP Felix
Sasaki 2007-02-07
ACTION-211 OPEN to create test cases for features 37 and 38 on
UDDI Prasad Yendluri 2007-02-14
ACTION-212 OPEN to determine the UDDI scenarios CitiGroup can
cover Mark Temple-Raston 2007-02-07
ACTION-213 OPEN Find an owner for feature 22 Christopher Ferris
2007-02-07
ACTION-214 OPEN Ask Ashok if he takes on feature 23 Paul
Cotton 2007-02-07
ACTION-215 OPEN Find out who within IBM is answering 4251 Maryann
Hondo 2007-02-07
ACTION-216 OPEN Propose text for primer or guideline for issue
4212 Umit Yalcinalp 2007-02-07
ACTION-217 OPEN And Monica to amend issue 4288 Maryann Hondo
2007-02-07
ACTION-218 OPEN And Maryann to provide text for subject attachment
Extensibility in guidelines Umit Yalcinalp 2007-02-07
6. Liaison items
None.
7. Exiting Last Call
a) WS-Policy Framework proposed CR WD
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-policy-framework.html?rev=1.95&content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8&only_with_tag=Editors-Draft-24-January-2007
b) WS-Policy Attachment proposed CR WD
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-policy-attachment.html?rev=1.85&content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8&only_with_tag=Editors-Draft-24-January-2007
c) WG comments on proposed CR WDs
d) WG decision to exit Last Call and request transition to CR
8. WS-Policy Call for Implementations, Chair
a) W3C Process 7.4.3 Call for Implementations (aka Candidate
Recommendation)
http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#cfi
Status: our CFI must cover the following items:
i) the Working Group SHOULD include a report of present and expected
implementations as part of the request.
ii) the Working Group MAY identify specific features of the technical
report as being "features at risk"
iii) The request to the Director to advance a technical report to
Candidate Recommendation MUST indicate whether the Working Group expects
to satisfy any Proposed Recommendation entrance criteria beyond the
default requirements
Default PR criteria are: Shown that each feature of the technical report
has been implemented. Preferably, the Working Group SHOULD be able to
demonstrate two interoperable implementations of each feature.
iv) The announcement MUST indicate a minimal duration, before which the
Working Group MUST NOT request a Call for Review of a Proposed
Recommendation; this minimal duration is designed to allow time for
comment.
v) The announcement SHOULD also include the Working Group's estimate of
the time expected to gather sufficient implementation data.
9. CR interop scenarios and testing
a) WS-Policy Features and Interop Scenarios, Asir
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0143.html
b) Revised Interop Scenarios, IBM and MSFT
<URL to be provided>
c) ACTION-203 Felix will create test cases for xml:id
d) ACTION-204 Chris will create test cases for xml:base
e) ACTION-209 Glen Daniels will create test cases for the policy MIME
type
f) UDDI scenario and test cases, Prasad
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0196.html
ACTION-211 OPEN to create test cases for features 37 and 38 on
UDDI Prasad Yendluri 2007-02-14
ACTION-212 OPEN to determine the UDDI scenarios CitiGroup can
cover Mark Temple-Raston 2007-02-07
g) Adding negative test cases, Chris F
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0199.html
h) Outstanding test cases, Chair
10. WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers
a) Issue 4251 Change syntax for some WSDL 1.1 identifiers
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4251
Ashok's proposal:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0169.html
David's correction:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0180.html
Status: At the F2F meeting WG members asked for more time to consider this
matter.
11. Primer issues
a) [NEW ISSUE] 4103 Questionable use of Contoso Ltd in Primer, Chris
Ferris
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4103
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0077.html
See thread ending at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0102.html
Status: Asir has action 183
ACTION-183 OPEN Research ownership of "Contoso" name/trademark. Asir
Vedamuthu 2007-01-10
b) [NEW ISSUE] 4263: Add text to ignorable discussion on passing ignorable
property of assertion to domain specific processing
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4263
c) [NEW ISSUE] 4212, 4213 Use of empty policy for nesting should be
exemplified
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0100.html
ACTION-216 OPEN Propose text for primer or guideline for issue
4212 Umit Yalcinalp 2007-02-07
d) [NEW ISSUE] 4255: Section 2.9 should also explain basic attaching
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4255
e) Issue 4195
ACTION-196 Frederick to add example outlined in
http://www.w3.org/2007/01/16-ws-policy-irc#T22-21-59 to be added to primer
f) Issue 4288 - Primer: Absence of Policy Assertions (editorial), Monica
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0214.html
ACTION-217 OPEN And Monica to amend issue 4288 Maryann Hondo
2007-02-07
12. Guidelines issues
a) ISSUE 3987: Section 5.9 - Lifecycle of Assertions?, Asir
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3987
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0111.html
b) ISSUE 4035: [ Guidelines] Section 2 should account for interop impact
of non-wire or one-party assertions and ignorable property
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4035
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0007.html
c) ISSUE 4072: Statements not relevant to assertion design, Dan
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4072
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0046.html
Fabian's response:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0063.html
d) ISSUE 3979: Clarify the guidance in section 5.9.1 on referencing policy
expressions, Dan Roth
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3979
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0104.html
ACTION-164 Try to write up alternative text that takes into consideration
today\\'s discussion on issue 3979 DONE. See:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0071.html
e) ISSUE 4073: Free standing statements, Asir
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4073
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0049.html
f) ISSUE 4074: Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues, Dan
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html
See exchange between Dan and Umit at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0085.html
g) ISSUE 4040: [Guidelines] Update guidelines to include discussion of
ignorable, Frederick http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4040
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0025.html
h) ISSUE 3978: Clarify if Section 7 on defining new policy attachment
mechanisms is necessary, Dan Roth
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3978
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0102.html
Maryann's response:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0131.html
i) ISSUE 3989: Suggested format for the Guidelines document., Asir
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3989
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0113.html
Maryann's response:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0132.html
Asir:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0139.html
Umit:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0141.html
j) ISSUE 3988: Section 8 doesn't illustrate how to design an assertion.,
Asir
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3988
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0112.html
Email discussion thread:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0000.html
k) ISSUE 4074: [Guidelines] Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues,
Dan
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html
l) ISSUE 3981: What is the relevance of Section 4 'Authoring Styles' to
policy assertion design?, Asir
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3981
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0107.html
m) ISSUE 3990: Content in Section 5.7 is unclear, Dan Roth
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3990
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0114.html
n) [NEW ISSUE] 4198: Policy assertion semantics independent of attachment
mechanism
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4198
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0083.html
ACTION-218 OPEN And Maryann to provide text for subject attachment
Extensibility in guidelines Umit Yalcinalp 2007-02-07
o) [NEW ISSUE] 4262 Use of @wsp:optional and @wsp:Ignorable on t...
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4262
Christopher Ferris
STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
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