AW: Translation process and Portuguese content

Hi Tomoyuki,

Thinking about it, it should also be possible to do it that way (/wiki/lang/es/Main_Page). We could probably even drop the lang/ part.

I don't know what would be better, a language prefix or a language suffix, I could live with either and both should work in the same way.

-fro


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Von: Tomoyuki SHIMIZU [mailto:tomoyuki.labs@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. April 2013 11:25
An: Julee Burdekin; public-webplatform@w3.org
Cc: Juarez P. A. Filho
Betreff: Re: Translation process and Portuguese content

Hi Julee,

> Tomoyuki and all: Is there any reason we could not do wiki and then the language, such as:
> 
> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/lang/es/Main_Page

I have not confirmed yet if it is actually impossible or not, but IMHO I think we might be able to apply such an article name by customizing {{Languages}} and {{Languages/Lang}} templates.

Best regards,
Tomoyuki

[1] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Template:Languages
[2] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Template:Languages/Lang


On Apr 5, 2013, at 17:04 , Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com> wrote:

> Yeah, Juarez: It was great meeting you at the Doc Sprint. So excited about a Portuguese translation!
> 
> Tomoyuki and all: Is there any reason we could not do wiki and then the language, such as:
> 
> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/lang/es/Main_Page
> 
> Also, is there a technical reason why wikipedia does 
> 
> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Springs
> 
> ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Julee
> ----------------------------
> julee@adobe.com
> @adobejulee
> 
> From: "Juarez P. A. Filho" <juarezpaf@gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, April 5, 2013 12:21 AM
> To: Tomoyuki SHIMIZU <tomoyuki.labs@gmail.com>
> Cc: "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: Translation process and Portuguese content
> Resent-From: <public-webplatform@w3.org>
> Resent-Date: Friday, April 5, 2013 12:22 AM
> 
> Amazing! Thanks guys! The Web Platform Doc Sprint was nice... I am going back to Brazil on this Sunday, so I will start the translation process with the Brazilian community help.
> 
> I really think we need better urls just as Tomoyuki suggested.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Best Regards,
> J | Web Addict  +55 82 99482935(Tim) | +55 82 88093556(Oi)
> http://facebook.com/juarezpaf | @juarezpaf
> 
> "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams."
> Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Tomoyuki SHIMIZU <tomoyuki.labs@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Although translation pages in some languages have already launched, the discussion about the rule of article names of translation pages still remains and no decision exists yet.
>> 
>> Currently the most popular way to create a new translation page is simply to add ISO language code as a subpage name like below:
>> 
>> > http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page/es
>> > http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page/fr
>> > http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page/ko
>> 
>> 
>> However, it is pointed out that this naming rule could cause conflicts with some HTML tags, CSS units, etc.[1]
>> 
>> To solve this, two kinds of solution have been proposed so far[2].
>> One is to prepare separate host for every language like Wikipedia; es.docs.webplatform.org, docs-es.wenbplatform.org, etc.[3]
>> The other is to extend subpage name: docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page/lang-es, docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page/lang:es, etc.[4]
>> 
>> Personally I have no strong preference now; If either the current way, separate hosts, or subpage name extension would be adopted as a common rule, many Japanese engineers as well as I are ready to begin writing Japanese translations.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Tomoyuki
>> 
>> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webplatform/2012Dec/0051.html
>> [2] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/WPD:Projects/translations
>> [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webplatform/2012Dec/0113.html
>> [4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webplatform/2012Dec/0077.html
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 18:25 , Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Thanks Romain.
>> >
>> > So just to add to that:
>> >
>> > The main page is at
>> >
>> > http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page
>> >
>> > There have been translations created and added at
>> >
>> > http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page/es
>> > http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page/fr
>> > http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page/ko
>> >
>> > etc.
>> >
>> > These have been picked up and automatically added into the translations bar of the different main page versions.
>> >
>> > So if you created a translation at http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page/pt
>> >
>> > that would automatically show up too.
>> >
>> > Feel free to ping us if you have any more questions ;-)
>> >
>> > Chris Mills
>> > Opera Software, dev.opera.com
>> > W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org
>> > Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M)
>> >
>> > On 4 Apr 2013, at 09:43, Romain Briand <contact@romain-briand.fr> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello Juarez,
>> >> Hi everyone,
>> >>
>> >> I started some french translation yesterday. You can go to this page for more information (Editor's guide) : http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/WPD:Editors_Guide
>> >> It is a wiki, so you can add pages like this : http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page/pt in order to translate the Main Page into Portuguese and so on.
>> >> Be carreful there are some special page types for docs.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your help!
>> >>
>> >> Romain
>> >>
>> >> 2013/4/4 Juarez P. A. Filho <juarezpaf@gmail.com>
>> >> Hey everyone...
>> >>
>> >> My name is Juarez and I am from Brazil and I am a Front-end Engineer.
>> >> Just came in to the Web Platform Doc Sprint at Google San Francisco Office today and talked with Peter and July about the wiki and I am very excited to contributing with content, mainly translating the actual content to the Portuguese.
>> >> So... How can I do that? Is there any common start step?
>> >> Thanks in advance guys!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best Regards,
>> >> J | Web Addict  +55 82 99482935 | +55 82 88093556
>> >> http://facebook.com/juarezpaf | @juarezpaf
>> >>
>> >> "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams."
>> >> Eleanor Roosevelt
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> 
>