- From: Thibaut Despoulain <thibaut@artillery.com>
- Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 16:16:47 -0800
- To: Florian Bösch <pyalot@gmail.com>
- Cc: Brandon Jones <bajones@google.com>, Ian Langworth <ian@artillery.com>, Webapps WG <public-webapps@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAASP90VGXTcq95f9EEOY91G8+WvNT6DCAvHjpn4x_RD-iWY=4w@mail.gmail.com>
> > I've written a test for this here: > http://codeflow.org/issues/software-cursor.html > > My observation from testing on linux is that I can't distinguish latency > for the software cursor from the OS cursor (or not by much anyway) in > google chrome. In firefox however there's noticable lag. Mileage may vary > for other platforms. > This is true, but sadly your test runs on an empty animation frame. If your main thread is doing a lot of work already (barely hitting the 60fps mark, as it is the case for demanding games), the lag will be much more perceptible as you will most likely drop a frame every now and then. The reason the cursor is hidden when the pointer is locked is that some > OSes don't have the ability to report relative mouse movement correctly at > screen edges. This requires the cursors to constantly be reset to the > center of the screen, which obviously would look strange if the cursor was > visible. Would that prevent vendors from implementing a pointer "edge grabbing"? (preventing the cursor to exit the window but keeping the OS cursor as-is while inside of it) On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Florian Bösch <pyalot@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Brandon Jones <bajones@google.com> wrote: > >> - it's possible to theme the OS cursor using custom images with CSS. >> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/cursor/url >> > Although that doesn't absolve vendors from fixing the latency issue even > if native pointers where to be made available during pointerlock. The > reason is that cursors come in more flavors than an image. For example they > could come in some variety of 3D rendered representations useful for the > game in question. > > >> - The reason the cursor is hidden when the pointer is locked is that some >> OSes don't have the ability to report relative mouse movement correctly at >> screen edges. This requires the cursors to constantly be reset to the >> center of the screen, which obviously would look strange if the cursor was >> visible. >> > Isn't that only a concern if you want to capture the cursor, not when you > display the OS cursor? > > >> - You already mentioned some issues with synthetic mouse events, but >> unfortunately it's worse than you suspect. For example: sending a synthetic >> click event to a checkbox doesn't actually change it's checked state. (Not >> the last time I tried anyway) select controls also have a hard time with >> synthetic events, and there's a whole host of other sub rely broken things. >> :( >> > Is there a motivation not to make it work? Clickjacking? >
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