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Re: Name of Last Call Candidate Recommendation Re: New draft of Chapter 7 Process proposal

From: Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 02:38:41 +0200
To: "David Singer" <singer@apple.com>
Cc: "Ian Jacobs" <ij@w3.org>, "Jeff Jaffe" <jeff@w3.org>, "public-w3process@w3.org" <public-w3process@w3.org>
Message-ID: <op.w46eqrney3oazb@chaals.local>
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 02:26:01 +0200, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:

> I am confused.  I thought you wanted the name "Last Call" for the stage  
> that triggered formal patent policy actions, merging LC and CR.


> We need a new name for the stage when the WG thinks the document is
> mature and are asking for the 'wide review' that LCCR asks for.

The problem Ivan pointed out is "LCCR is a horrible name. Is there  
something better we can use"?

"Please review, because we're about to go into LCCR" seems OK to me. Why  
have a formal "almost LCCR" stage name?

> That can't be LC, can it?

No, but I don't think it needs a formal name at all...



> On Oct 18, 2013, at 17:22 , Charles McCathie Nevile  
> <chaals@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 01:39:51 +0200, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> wrote:
>>> On Oct 18, 2013, at 6:14 PM, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:
>>>> On Oct 18, 2013, at 7:12 , Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/17/2013 9:44 PM, Charles McCathie Nevile wrote:
>> ...
>>>>>> Finally, Ivan Herman points out that the name Last Call Candidate  
>>>>>> Recommendation is horrid. I agree, but think we need "Last Call" in  
>>>>>> the title to help us clarify that it is the stage referred to in  
>>>>>> the Patent Policy as "Last Call". Anyone have a good idea for this?
>>>>> How about "Last Call"?
>>>> Neat, I wonder where you thought that!
>>>> I think the process should give a name to a document that the WG  
>>>> thinks is 'done' and wants formal public review on, even if nothing  
>>>> is tied to it.  How about PR (Public Review)?  Otherwise, neither the  
>>>> WG nor the public know when a public WD is 'complete'.
>>> I make some similar suggestions here:
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-w3process/2013Oct/0066.html
>>> Namely:
>>> * Mature Draft                   (This conveys info about the maturity)
>>> * External Review Draft    (This conveys the action we want done, and  
>>> that we are looking beyond the WG)
>>> * RIPE Draft. This stands for: Review and Implementation, Particularly  
>>> Externally! :)
>> I'm big on "Last Call". One of the ideas was to make Last Calls actually
>> mean "As far as we can tell, we're done", as opposed to "please have a
>> look".
>> I would also like to keep the words 'Last Call' because they have an
>> important meaning in the Patent Policy, and keeping that link clear in
>> both directions seems useful, until we can change the Patent Policy.
>> Beyond that, my major goal is not to lose too much time on discussion  
>> of this question.
>> cheers
>> Chaals
>> --
>> Charles McCathie Nevile - Consultant (web standards) CTO Office, Yandex
>>        chaals@yandex-team.ru         Find more at http://yandex.com
> David Singer
> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.

Charles McCathie Nevile - Consultant (web standards) CTO Office, Yandex
       chaals@yandex-team.ru         Find more at http://yandex.com
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