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RE: Issue-5 Proposal-7

From: Mike O'Neill <michael.oneill@baycloud.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 21:22:53 -0000
To: "'Roy T. Fielding'" <fielding@gbiv.com>, <rob@blaeu.com>
Cc: "'David Singer'" <singer@apple.com>, "'Carl Cargill'" <cargill@adobe.com>, <public-tracking@w3.org>
Message-ID: <06fa01ced5b6$32541b20$96fc5160$@baycloud.com>
Roy,

Rob's non-normative text addresses an important aspect of all this, how
tracking is understood by many and why they donít like it. It is defined as
a  process "intended to analyse or predict the personality or certain
personal aspects relating to a natural person..."  and the actual mechanism,
tracking data or whatever, is less relevant in this context. 

I agree there does need to be a definition of the exact things a server must
do/not do to comply, and we may decide on multiple versions of that (taking
into account local law), but the DNT header is a mechanism for communicating
an instantly recognisable human concern so why not describe it as such. 



Mike
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy T. Fielding [mailto:fielding@gbiv.com] 
Sent: 30 October 2013 19:18
To: rob@blaeu.com
Cc: Mike O'Neill; 'David Singer'; 'Carl Cargill'; public-tracking@w3.org
Subject: Re: Issue-5 Proposal-7

On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Rob van Eijk wrote:

> non normative addendum:
> 
> Tracking includes automated real time decisions, intended to analyse or
predict the personality or certain personal aspects relating to a natural
person, including the analysis and prediction of the personís health,
economic situation, information on political or philosophical beliefs ,
performance at work, leisure, personal preferences or interests, details and
patterns on behavior, detailed location or movements.

To be perfectly clear, NO.  Tracking does not include those things
unless they happen to be based on tracking data, and thus the above
text has nothing to do with the definition of tracking itself.
For example, the above is already being done with contextual data
present in a single request.

> Tracking is defined in a technological neutral way and includes e.g.
cookie based tracking technology, active and passive fingerprinting
techniques.

Which is clear from either proposed definition (but not the
proposal of no definition) and does not need to be repeated.

....Roy
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