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RE: [ALL] agenda 25 Sep telecon - 1500 UTC

From: Hausenblas, Michael <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:02:20 +0200
Message-ID: <768DACDC356ED04EA1F1130F97D29852012E5917@RZJC2EX.jr1.local>
To: "Guus Schreiber" <schreiber@cs.vu.nl>
Cc: "SWD WG" <public-swd-wg@w3.org>

Guus,

As I'm at risk for tomorrow's telecon, I'd like
to point out that regarding my review action
for "Cool URIs for the Semantic Web", I have already 
posted them to the SWD list (cf. see [1]).

Cheers,	
	Michael

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0062.html

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 Michael Hausenblas, MSc.
 Institute of Information Systems & Information Management
 JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH
  
 http://www.joanneum.at/iis/
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: public-swd-wg-request@w3.org 
>[mailto:public-swd-wg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Guus Schreiber
>Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:47 AM
>To: SWD WG
>Subject: [ALL] agenda 25 Sep telecon - 1500 UTC
>
>
>Agenda - Sep 25 2007 SWD telecon - 1500 UTC 
>W3C Semantic Web Deployment Working Group 
>  http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/
>  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/ 
>  Tuesday, 1500 UTC 
>    0800 Seattle 
>    1100 Boston 
>    1600 London 
>    1700 Amsterdam 
>  Phone 
>    Boston: +1-617-761-6200 
>    Nice: +33-4-8906-3499 
>    Bristol: +44-117-370-6152 
>  Conference code 79394# ('SWDWG') 
>  IRC irc://irc.w3.org:6665/swd Web-based IRC (member-only) 
>
>Chair: Tom Baker/Guus Schreiber 
>Scribe: Quentin, Ed on deck 
>    (see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/ScribeDuty) 
>Regrets: Al (Sep 25), Diego (Sep 25, Oct 2) 
>
>Attendance of SWD WG telecons is restricted to registered WG
>participants and persons invited by the chairs. 
>
>====================================================================== 
>
>1. ADMIN (10 min) ---------------------------------------
>
>Minutes PROPOSED to accept minutes of 18 Sep telecon: 
>http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-minutes.html 
>
>Upcoming telecons next telecons: 
>  2 Oct - then face-to-face on 8-9 Oct (also a telecon!)
>
>Face-to-face meeting - Amsterdam - October 8-9 2007 
>  -- Logistics http://www.few.vu.nl/~aisaac/swd/ 
>  -- Draft agenda http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda
>  -- Registration
>  http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39408/swd-ftf-adam-registration/
>  ACTION: all to register (indicate also that you're not planning to
>  attend and/or want to attend via telecon) 
>
>Roll call for attendance as of 2007-09-21:
>  WG members: Tom, Guus, Diego, Ed, Justin, Antoine, Jon, 
>Alistair, Ralph, Sean
>  Guests: Steven Pemberton (RDFa), Mark Birbeck (RDFa), Ivan Herman
>  By irc/telecon: Elisa, Ben, Michael, Simone
>
>======================================================================
>2. SWD review of "Cool URIs for the Semantic Web"
>-- 
>https://gnowsis.opendfki.de/repos/gnowsis/papers/2006_11_concep
turi/html/cooluris_sweo_note.html
>
>   Michael, Vit, and Ed should please post reviews in time
>   for discussion on September 25 call. Goal is to provide
>   feedback to SWEO by October 2 at latest.
>
>======================================================================
>3. SKOS - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#SKOS
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Amsterdam agenda topic: "Label relations" (Guus) 
>-- Issue-26: RelationshipsBetweenLabels 
>(http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26)
>
>ACTION: Guus to move ISSUE-26 forward [recorded in 
>http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action04]
>
>ACTION: Guus to post user experience reports for ISSUE-26 
>[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action05]
>
>ACTION: Alistair to state the difference between the two 
>flavours of the SimpleExtension proposal for issue 26 
>[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-swd-minutes.html#action05]
>
>For discussion on the telecon, from
>http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#LabelRelations:
>
>   Relevant issue:
>    * [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26 '''Issue-26 - 
>      RelationshipsBetweenLabels''' (open)]
>    * Issue: SKOS allows to represent semantic relationships
>      (broader, related) between concepts. It also allows
>      to represent relationships between concepts and labels
>      (prefLabel, altLabel). However, there is nothing proposed
>      in SKOS to capture links between labels themselves, a
>      configuration which sometimes happens in concept schemes.
>
>   Required background reading:
>    * 
>[http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBet
>weenLabels/ 
>      SkosDesign RelationshipsBetweenLabels]
>
>   Three options will be discussed in Amsterdam
>    * 
>[http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBet
>weenLabels/ProposalFour 
>      Alistair's "Minimal Label Relation" proposal]
>    * 
>[http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBet
>weenLabels/ProposalThree 
>      Guus "Simple Extension" proposal]
>    * 
>[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0013
.html Guus "remove range 
>      restriction for skos: prefLabel" proposal]
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Amsterdam topic "Labeling properties" (Alistair)
>
>For discussion on the telecon, from
>http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#LabelingProperties:
>
> Relevant issue:
>  * [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/31 '''Issue-31 
>- BasicLexicalLabelSemantics''' (open)]
>     * Issue: Can a resource have two "preferred lexical
>       labels"? Can a lexical label be both "preferred" and
>       "alternative" for the same resource? If a lexical label
>       is "hidden", can it also be "preferred" or "alternative"
>       for the same resource?  ...
> 
> Proposed solution:
>  * 
>[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jun/0170.html
>    Alistair, 2007-06-26]: Alistair proposes a section of
>    the draft SKOS Semantics as a resolution for Issue 31 --
>    
>http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/Semantics/Labelling?act
ion=recall&rev=5.
>    "This proposal deals with the intuitive semantics of
>    'preferred', 'alternative' and 'hidden' at the syntactic
>    level, which avoids complicated semantics conditions and
>    allows for error-tolerant strategies to be defined."
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Amsterdam topic "Semantic Relation Properties" (Sean)
>-- 
>http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#SemanticRela
>tionProperties
>
>ACTION: Sean to prepare readings and discussion topics for 
>Semantic Relation properties [recorded in 
>http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-minutes.html#action06]
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Amsterdam topic "Concept Semantics" (Antoine)
>-- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#ConceptSemantics
>
>ACTION: Antoine to make wiki page or list posting summarizing 
>issues for "Concept Semantics" [recorded in 
>http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-minutes.html#action07]
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Amsterdam topic "Drawing the picture" - no discussion leader yet
>
>ACTION: Guus to email a proposal to the list about Issue-36 
>ConceptSchemeContainment [recorded in 
>http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-swd-minutes.html#action01]
>
> Problems to discuss:
>  * Are relationships part of a concept scheme?
>  * Are the concepts part of a concept scheme?
>  * Capture underlying intuitions: UML diagrams? Blobs and lines?
>  * What do we mean by "containment", "aggregation"...?
>  * Are relationships of a concept somehow part of the concept?
>  * Can concepts "exist" independently of a scheme?
>  * Goal: see how things fit together in the larger picture.
> 
> Relevant issues:
>  * ISSUE-36 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/36 - 
>ConceptSchemeContainment (open)
>  * Guus thoughts on ISSUE-36: 
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jul/0164.html
>  * Alistair: 
>http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/UserStories useful for 
>ISSUE-36?
> 
> Reading:
>  * http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Aug/0016.html
>  * http://isegserv.itd.rl.ac.uk/public/ajm65/dc2007/tutorial.pdf
>  * http://zthes.z3950.org/model/zthes-model-1.0.html
>  * bs8273 - UML diagrams available?
>  * Elisa/Clay/Ed/Jon: OMG, ISO 1087...?
>
>======================================================================
>4. RDFa - RDFa Overview document http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/
>
>   Teleconferences take place Mondays, 1300-1400 UTC -    
>irc://irc.w3.org:6665/rdfa, conference code 7332# ('RDFa').
>   Everyone interested in RDFa is invited to participate.
>
>Telecon minutes 14 Sep:
>http://www.w3.org/2007/09/14-rdfa-minutes.html
>
>ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after 
>discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in 
>http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08]
>
>Amsterdam topic "RDFa"
>-- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#RDFa
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Questions from IPTC (Misha Wolf)
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0023.html
>
>ACTION: Guus to raise question three from Misha's email -- 
>statements (creator, date modified, confidence...) about 
>statements -- with the RDFa group [recorded in 
>http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action11]
>
>======================================================================
>5. RECIPES - see 
>http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#Recipes
>
>ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default 
>behavior" (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/16) -- 
>formerly known as "Recipe issue 1.3" [recorded in 
>http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
>-- see comment: 
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0036.html
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Amsterdam topic "Recipes" (Jon)
>
>ACTION: Jon to clarify reading list and discussion points for 
>Amsterdam agenda topic "Receipes" [recorded in 
>http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-minutes.html#action13]
>
>======================================================================
>6. VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT - see 
>http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#VocabularyMgt
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Current draft - http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/VocabMgtDraft
>
>ACTION: Elisa will configure IPTC from Misha's email into 
>vocabulary management documents [recorded in 
>http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action12]
>-- see comment: 
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0035.html
>-- however: 
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0031.html
>
>ACTION: Elisa to ask for feedback on VM draft [recorded in 
>http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-swd-minutes.html#action06] 
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Amsterdam topic "Vocabulary Management" (Ralph locally, Elisa remotely)
>
>-- Vit suggestions: 
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0000.html
>
>For discussion on the telecon, from
>http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#VM:
>
> To be discussed late afternoon Monday 16:00+ so that Elisa can join.
> 
> Discussion points:
> 
> 1. Overall document structure, section requirements and status (Elisa)
> 
> 2. Ontology Version Management (Vit) --
>    Versioning Questionnaire Evaluation (Vit) - Survey Results [1]
>    Reference Implementation of RDF-based Ontology Versioning 
>(Vit) - SemVersion (Knowledge Web EU project) [2], [3].
>    Further discussion regarding versioning best practices 
>based on early results of diff capabilities (Vit)
> 
>    [1] http://smile.deri.ie/limesurvey/index.php?sid=2
>    [2] http://semversion.ontoware.org/kwebd233b.pdf
>    [3] http://semweb4j.org/site/semversion/
> 
>    Suggested Reading:
>    * http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/VocabMgtDraft
>    * 
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2007A
ug/0001.html
>    * 
>https://gnowsis.opendfki.de/repos/gnowsis/papers/2006_11_concep
turi/html/index.html
>    * 
>http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Tasks/URI_Best_Practices
>    * Daniel is liaison, SWD may be asked for review before publication
>    * 
>http://sites.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/suhl/bizer/pub/drafts/LinkedDa
taTutorial/
>
>
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