- From: David Wood <david@3roundstones.com>
- Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:35:49 -0400
- To: Andy Seaborne <andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com>
- Cc: public-rdf-wg@w3.org
Hi all,
On Apr 10, 2012, at 09:31, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>
>
> On 10/04/12 14:14, Ivan Herman wrote:
>> Just my immediate reaction on this...
>>
>> What this use case seem to demand is some possibilities to manipulate graphs explicitly, that is to create the union (in the RDF) sense of graphs (that is the way I interpret this 'Frame' concept).
>>
>> The question is whether this is left in the application domain, via some sort of API on the RDF environment (the RDF environment I know the most, namely RDFLib, has operations to create the union of graphs) or whether we need some declarative/syntax means for that. Something like (using Tom's pseudo-code):
>>
>> <u> { P has_title "Moby-Dick, or, the Whale"; P has_as_subject "Whaling Ships -- Fiction" }
>> <v> { Q has_language "English" ; Q has_extent "213711 words" }
>> {
>> <f> rdf:unionOf (<u> <v> ) .
>> }
>>
>> or, alternatively, some syntax that explicitly says that the Default Graph includes the union of all those graphs, but I am not sure what syntax one would use for that...
>>
>> Ivan
>
> As well as union, there is something else going on.
>
> -- Named Graph D, a Work-level description
> P has_title "Moby-Dick, or, the Whale"
>
> -- Named Graph A, an Item-level description
> X has_OAI_ID http://hdl.handle.net/10150/16470
>
> ==>
>
> X has_title "Moby-Dick, or, the Whale"
>
> so some inference happened:
...or rather, "some inference could happen above the level of RDF" as with OWL.
Regards,
Dave
>
> P a :work
> P has_title "..."
> X a :Item
> FrameL includes NamedGraphA
> FrameL includes NamedGraphD
>
> ==>
> X has_title "..."
>
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>
> Andy
>
>
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>>
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>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 15:05 , Ivan Herman wrote:
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>>> I am not sure all of you read the RDF Comment mailing list, so, to be on the safe side, I forward this mail...
>>>
>>> Ivan
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> Resent-From: public-rdf-comments@w3.org
>>>> From: Thomas Baker<tom@tombaker.org>
>>>> Subject: Use Case: "Expressing FRBR Descriptions using Named Graphs"
>>>> Date: April 4, 2012 23:44:38 GMT+02:00
>>>> To: public-rdf-comments@w3.org
>>>> Cc: Ron Murray<kandroma1@me.com>, Barbara Tillett<btil@loc.gov>, Gordon Dunsire<gordon@gordondunsire.com>
>>>> Archived-At:<http://www.w3.org/mid/20120404214438.GA47236@julius>
>>>> List-Id:<public-rdf-comments.w3.org>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Members of the RDF Working Group,
>>>>
>>>> The following text describes a proposed use case for Named Graphs. For anyone
>>>> unfamiliar with "FRBR," the Wikipedia page provides a quick overview [1]. FRBR
>>>> is the foundation for RDA (Resource Description and Access), the new cataloging
>>>> standard towards which major libraries are moving [2].
>>>>
>>>> This proposal for conceptualizing FRBR entities as Named Graphs is based on
>>>> work by Ronald Murray and Barbara Tillett of the Library of Congress. These
>>>> ideas are illustrated in a visually very engaging slide deck, "From Moby-Dick
>>>> to Mash-Ups: Thinking About Bibliographic Networks" [3]. Gordon Dunsire has
>>>> also contributed to the proposal.
>>>>
>>>> We would be especially grateful for feedback in advance of an event on 27 April
>>>> at the British Library [4]. The event will mark the fifth anniversary of a
>>>> meeting in May 2007 which resulted in a recommendation that RDA and FRBR be
>>>> expressed in RDF [5].
>>>>
>>>> The Named Graph approach outlined below is a relatively new contribution to
>>>> this ongoing thread. As the approach depends on the resolution of issues still
>>>> under discussion in the RDF Working Group, we would much appreciate your
>>>> comments or suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_Requirements_for_Bibliographic_Records
>>>> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_Description_and_Access
>>>> [3] http://www.slideshare.net/RonMurray/from-mobydick-to-mashups
>>>> [4] http://dcevents.dublincore.org/index.php/BibData/fyo
>>>> [5] http://www.bl.uk/bibliographic/meeting.html
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Expressing FRBR Descriptions using Named Graphs: a proposal
>>>>
>>>> W3C's Resource Description Framework (RDF) Working Group [1] is currently
>>>> discussing proposals for supporting "named graphs" to meet a wide range of use
>>>> cases [2], possibly by extending the TriG Named Graph and RDF Data Language
>>>> [3,4]. This proposal outlines how Named Graphs might be used in resource
>>>> descriptions that are based on the so-called WEMI entities (Work, Expression,
>>>> Manifestation, and Item) of the IFLA model Functional Requirements for
>>>> Bibliographic Records (FRBR) [5].
>>>>
>>>> This proposal views descriptions of WEMI entities as bundles of statements made
>>>> at different levels of abstraction, from the most concrete Item level to the
>>>> most abstract Work level. Multi-level WEMI descriptions specify the
>>>> characteristics that any given Item shares with other Items at the level of
>>>> Work, Expression, and Manifestation. Ideally, it would be possible to
>>>> incorporate descriptions of resources at the Work, Expression, and
>>>> Manifestation levels, maintained in a distributed manner by various
>>>> institutions, into the local descriptions of particular Items.
>>>>
>>>> Consider the following four Named Graphs, each of which is identified with a
>>>> URI (A, B, C, or D) and contains two statements:
>>>>
>>>> -- Named Graph D, a Work-level description
>>>> P has_title "Moby-Dick, or, the Whale"
>>>> P has_as_subject "Whaling Ships -- Fiction"
>>>>
>>>> -- Named Graph C, an Expression-level description
>>>> Q has_language "English"
>>>> Q has_extent "213711 words"
>>>>
>>>> -- Named Graph B, a Manifestation-level description
>>>> R has_edition_issue "First Edition"
>>>> R has_pub_place "New York NY"
>>>>
>>>> -- Named Graph A, an Item-level description
>>>> X has_OAI_ID http://hdl.handle.net/10150/16470
>>>> X has_condition "yellowing at page edges"
>>>>
>>>> One might bind these four chunks into a single description by "including" them
>>>> into a common "frame":
>>>>
>>>> FrameL includes NamedGraphA
>>>> FrameL includes NamedGraphB
>>>> FrameL includes NamedGraphC
>>>> FrameL includes NamedGraphD
>>>>
>>>> One would then want to infer that the Item in hand (described by the statements
>>>> in Named Graph A) is _also_ described by statements in the Named Graphs at the
>>>> more abstract levels of Work, Expression, and Manifestation included in the
>>>> same Frame. In other words, if X is the URI of the Item in hand, one would
>>>> like to infer:
>>>>
>>>> X has_title "Moby-Dick, or, the Whale"
>>>> X has_as_subject "Whaling Ships -- Fiction"
>>>> X has_language "English"
>>>> X has_extent "213711 words"
>>>> X has_edition_issue "First Edition"
>>>> X has_pub_place "New York NY
>>>> X has_OAI_ID http://hdl.handle.net/10150/16470
>>>> X has_condition "yellowing at page edges"
>>>>
>>>> Discussion
>>>>
>>>> 1. Formal notions of Frame, and of "inclusion" in a Frame, would need to be
>>>> defined for the general case.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Formal rules would be needed for interpreting Frames with different
>>>> sets of FRBR descriptions, e.g., for the simple case above, in which
>>>> statements from Work-, Expression-, and Manifestation-level descriptions are
>>>> interpreted as applying to the Item.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Given the complex, even chaotic nature of the Web, flexibility to
>>>> implement this approach in a partial manner is a critical design criterion.
>>>> Particular WEMI descriptions should be useful in a Linked Data environment
>>>> independently of particular Frames and, ideally, even in the absence of an
>>>> understanding of Frames and Inclusion (see 1 above) or of the particular
>>>> rules applicable to FRBR (see 2 above). In the example described above, the
>>>> statements in Named Graph D about Work P would be useful independently of
>>>> FrameL, which (according to rules yet to be defined) would merely apply
>>>> those statements, additionally, to Item X.
>>>>
>>>> References
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/
>>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Why_Graphs
>>>> [3] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/trig/index.html#
>>>> [4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2012Mar/0123.html
>>>> [5] http://www.ifla.org/VII/s13/frbr/frbr.htm
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tom Baker<tom@tombaker.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>>> mobile: +31-641044153
>>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
>>>
>>>
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>> ----
>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>> mobile: +31-641044153
>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
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