- From: Janne Saarela <janne.saarela@profium.com>
- Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:52:37 +0100
- To: DAWG Mailing List <public-rdf-dawg@w3.org>
RDF Data Access Working Group http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/ Tuesday 2005-03-22 14:30-16:30 UTC log: http://www.w3.org/2005/03/22-dawg-irc.html chair: DanC scribe: JanneS 1. Convene, take roll, review agenda Attending: Dan Connolly Kendall Clark Andy Seaborne Eric Prud'hommeaux Hiroyuki Sato Howard Katz Janne Saarela Jos De Roo Kevin Wilkinson Pat Hayes Yoshio Fukushige Dave Beckett Steve Harris Bryan Thompson Bijan Parsia Regrets: none PROPOSED to accept as a true record of the last meeting: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005JanMar/0358.html ACCEPTED with amendment of DaveB's regrets that were missing. Proposed agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005JanMar/0372.html 2. issue: sort http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/issues#sort The WG discussed whether SORT design and inclusion in the language will continue or not. Poll showed interest to pursue the design further and to keep sorting as an objective for DAWG. Kendall explicitly noted that new objectives are useful at this point even if we don't do them; there's likely to be another charter, eventually. they seem good input to that. As AndyS has suggested a design in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#solutionsResults so the following 2 action items were assigned to review that design ACTION PatH: review sort design in 2 weeks ACTION Kevin: review sort design at earliest convenience 3. optional test for with background inference JosD had had an action item to ACTION JosD: Jos to propose an optional test based on ACTION op:dateTime triple which is considered DONE in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005JanMar/0361.html DanC was expecting to see was expecting the inferred triple (whose predicate is op:dateTime-greater-than ) in the input data and took an action item ACTION DanC: follow up re optional test based on op:dateTime triple 4. Test suite maintenance JosD had had an action item to ACTION JosD: propose a test based on dawg-triple-pattern-002 with a . in a qname which is considered DONE in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005JanMar/0360.html The WG observed the . in a qname is only present in the input data, not in the query language itself which we should be testing. SteveH noted there's a test with dot in the query language expression in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/#syntax-004 DaveB noted turtle definitions don't include dots in qnames and thus got an action item to ACTION DaveB: consider dots in qnames, report on impact on turtle Other action items continued ACTION EricP: to pair with SteveH on making the HTML test results page (continued) ACTION SteveH: to to revise test manifest w.r.t. "background" and named graphs (continued) ACTION DaveB: to to propose source test to approve (continued) ACTION AndyS: to add the above graph test cases (analagous to valueTesting test cases) (continued - don't expect quick delivery) (moved to agenda item 9 for the sake of time) 9. requirements review before last call WG discussed how to publish the test cases document. SteveH volunteered to make it into a NOTE ACTION SteveH: prepare test cases for publication as WG Note (no deadline/urgency) WG discussed publishing of the updated Use Cases and Requirements document in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/UseCases Section 2.18 that motivates WSDL was deemed to require some rewording both in title and in contents. The wording now leads into thinking the wsdl interface is mostly for inserting and not for querying. ACTION Kendall: To rewrite 2.18: change the title, don't motivate "update", spell "WSDL" correctly. :> WG decided to publish updated documents ACTION KC, AFS, EP: publish usecases 1.148 + revision to 2.18 by KC, reviewed by AFS, plus editorial fixups by KC, ok'd by EricP The remaining time WG spent discussing how members felt about the inclusion of the new features (such as disjunction, sorting, casting, update, xml serialization and wsdl) into the WG work. Some features were considered worth the effort with the conscious risk of missing our known schedule. The philosophy of 'better right than fast' was appealing to many members while acknowledging the contradiction with the ability to deliver in time. Adjourned at 16:09 UTC. Next meeting: 29-March-2005 at 14:30 UTC. !!! Please be careful with the timing as Europe is moving into Summer time next Sunday !!! Scribe for next meeting: N.N. (JanneS realized after the teleconf he will be sitting in a car during next teleconf without being able to take notes. No beer for Janne that is.) Janne -- Janne Saarela <janne.saarela at profium.com> Profium, Lars Sonckin kaari 12, 02600 Espoo, Finland Internet: http://www.profium.com
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