- From: Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:44:20 -0500
- To: public-rdf-dawg@w3.org
RDF Data Access Working Group http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/ Tuesday 2004-12-07 14:30-16:03 UTC log: http://www.w3.org/2004/11/30-dawg-irc Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0412.html chair: Dan Connolly scribe: Eric Prud'hommeaux 1. Convene, take roll, review agenda Attending: Eric Prud'hommeaux Dan Connolly Simon Raboczi Tom Adams Steve Harris Kendall Clark Kevin Wilkinson Andy Seaborne Jos De Roo Regrets: Alberto Reggiori Howard Katz Pat Hayes Hiroyuki Sato Dave Beckett (on IRC for a while) Farrukh Najmi Janne Saarela Next meeting: Tuesday 2004-12-14 14:30-16:30 UTC Scribe: TomA PROPOSED to accept as a true record of the last meeting: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0394.html ACCEPTED without opposition ACTION: KendallC expose our walking tour data to SPARQL querying clients CONTINUED 2. ftf4 2005-01-19/2005-01-20 in Helsinki, Finland [DanC forwards mail to WG re what to wear in Finland] 12 expected at the f2f. 7. ftf5 in March 2005 DanC showed us the SWIG meeting at the 2005 tech plenary page http://esw.w3.org/topic/SwigAtTp2005 ACTION EricP: find logistics re F2F5 at tech plenary in Boston March 28 Feb - 4 Mar (2 days). Some WG preference to Mon/Tue of that week. CONTINUES Kendall brought up the idea of meeting for 4 days. No audible strong reactions. DanC can chair for 2 days. 3. Test Cases ACTION JosD: write email about alternative result format using DONE http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0415.html This raised a use/mention discussion. No discriminating use cases found yet. DanBri has URI munging and regexp use cases. Andy proposes <<uri>> in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0420.html DanC will create an issue ala ISSUE: use/mention issues in regex operators, test result format ACTION: SteveH is willing to adapt his testing infrastructure to generate input/output RDF/XML and typed nodes into manifest file CONTINUED ACTION EricP: make sure all dawg tests are world-readable now and going forward ACTION EricP: come up with a specification for the "non-XML" syntax (may be turtle) PROPOSED to accept use cases http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/#sparql-query-example-2-1a http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/#sparql-query-example-2-2a http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/#sparql-query-example-2-3a http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/#sparql-query-example-2-4a RESOLVED with 1 abstention: Kendall Clark and no objections Simon, DanC raised a scalar constraints issue with "?price < 30" in ex 3 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/#sparql-query-example-3 SimonR: can you put scalar constraints in the graph? AndyS: numeric ops allowed in scalar constraints ala "?price + 3 < ?x + ?y" AndyS: What about op:lessThan "42"^^xsd:byte (0verloading) This also raised issues of casting and round-tripping. ACTION: EricP to sketch tests around comparators in the graph constraint ACTION SimonR: propose test case for scalar constraint with syntax uniform to graph constraints XSCH SWBPD task force is addressing XSD data types in RDF. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/XSCH/xsch-sw/ DanC, SimonR, TomA and JosD don't like the scalar constraints syntax. 4. Protocol [discussing 26 Nov binding http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0364.html] A discussion of whether to publish the result format separately sparked these issues: should be RDF-friendly schema users want predictable element and attribute names vars could be listed at the head The mood was in favor of a separate result format document. ACTION: DaveB to write an XML result format ACTION: AndyS to review Dave's XML result set format ACTION: SteveH to review Dave's XML result set format [discussion of simplex protocol document http://monkeyfist.com/kendall/sparql-protocol-simplex/] PROPOSE that simplex be published pending approval from KendallC and TomA and AndyS RESOLVED with 0 abstentions and 0 objections ACTION: KendallC to publish "SPARQL Protocol for RDF" pending approval from TomA and AndyS 5. SPARQL SOURCE Issue c.f. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0426.html ACTION: DaveB update the dawg test repository to record or amend tests to correspond to the http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0241.html CONTINUED ACTION: TomA write email to list about how their customers are using named graphs DONE ACTION: JanneS propose text for hard failure in the protocol draft CONTINUED ACTION: DanC suggest formal definitions for SOURCE CONTINUED 6. SPARQL update, issues ACTION: PatH to review editors working draft of rq23 DONE http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0419.html ACTION: AlbertoR owns issue 'DESCRIBE' DONE ACTION: DanC owner of issue 'yes or no questions' (pending protocol doc) CONTINUED ACTION: SteveH own (i.e. propose resolution to) disjunction issue CONTINUED ACTION: EricP migrate some Algae UnionDisjunciton test cases [discussion of whether to publish early without PatH's feedback or later with the feedback] Mood in favor of publishing later with the feedback. ADJOURNED at 16:03:29Z -- -eric office: +1.617.258.5741 NE43-344, MIT, Cambridge, MA 02144 USA cell: +1.857.222.5741 (eric@w3.org) Feel free to forward this message to any list for any purpose other than email address distribution.
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