- From: Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:44:20 -0500
- To: public-rdf-dawg@w3.org
RDF Data Access Working Group
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/
Tuesday 2004-12-07 14:30-16:03 UTC
log: http://www.w3.org/2004/11/30-dawg-irc
Agenda:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0412.html
chair: Dan Connolly
scribe: Eric Prud'hommeaux
1. Convene, take roll, review agenda
Attending:
Eric Prud'hommeaux
Dan Connolly
Simon Raboczi
Tom Adams
Steve Harris
Kendall Clark
Kevin Wilkinson
Andy Seaborne
Jos De Roo
Regrets:
Alberto Reggiori
Howard Katz
Pat Hayes
Hiroyuki Sato
Dave Beckett (on IRC for a while)
Farrukh Najmi
Janne Saarela
Next meeting:
Tuesday 2004-12-14 14:30-16:30 UTC
Scribe: TomA
PROPOSED to accept as a true record of the last meeting:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0394.html
ACCEPTED without opposition
ACTION: KendallC expose our walking tour data to SPARQL querying
clients
CONTINUED
2. ftf4 2005-01-19/2005-01-20 in Helsinki, Finland
[DanC forwards mail to WG re what to wear in Finland]
12 expected at the f2f.
7. ftf5 in March 2005
DanC showed us the SWIG meeting at the 2005 tech plenary page
http://esw.w3.org/topic/SwigAtTp2005
ACTION EricP: find logistics re F2F5 at tech plenary in Boston March 28 Feb - 4 Mar (2 days). Some WG preference to Mon/Tue of that week.
CONTINUES
Kendall brought up the idea of meeting for 4 days. No audible strong
reactions. DanC can chair for 2 days.
3. Test Cases
ACTION JosD: write email about alternative result format using
DONE http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0415.html
This raised a use/mention discussion. No discriminating use cases
found yet. DanBri has URI munging and regexp use cases. Andy proposes
<<uri>> in
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0420.html
DanC will create an issue ala
ISSUE: use/mention issues in regex operators, test result format
ACTION: SteveH is willing to adapt his testing infrastructure to
generate input/output RDF/XML and typed nodes into manifest file
CONTINUED
ACTION EricP: make sure all dawg tests are world-readable now and
going forward
ACTION EricP: come up with a specification for the "non-XML" syntax
(may be turtle)
PROPOSED to accept use cases
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/#sparql-query-example-2-1a
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/#sparql-query-example-2-2a
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/#sparql-query-example-2-3a
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/#sparql-query-example-2-4a
RESOLVED with 1 abstention: Kendall Clark and no objections
Simon, DanC raised a scalar constraints issue with "?price < 30" in ex 3
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/#sparql-query-example-3
SimonR: can you put scalar constraints in the graph?
AndyS: numeric ops allowed in scalar constraints ala "?price + 3 < ?x + ?y"
AndyS: What about op:lessThan "42"^^xsd:byte (0verloading)
This also raised issues of casting and round-tripping.
ACTION: EricP to sketch tests around comparators in the graph
constraint
ACTION SimonR: propose test case for scalar constraint with syntax
uniform to graph constraints
XSCH SWBPD task force is addressing XSD data types in RDF.
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/XSCH/xsch-sw/
DanC, SimonR, TomA and JosD don't like the scalar
constraints syntax.
4. Protocol
[discussing 26 Nov binding
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0364.html]
A discussion of whether to publish the result format separately
sparked these issues:
should be RDF-friendly
schema users want predictable element and attribute names
vars could be listed at the head
The mood was in favor of a separate result format document.
ACTION: DaveB to write an XML result format
ACTION: AndyS to review Dave's XML result set format
ACTION: SteveH to review Dave's XML result set format
[discussion of simplex protocol document
http://monkeyfist.com/kendall/sparql-protocol-simplex/]
PROPOSE that simplex be published pending approval from KendallC and TomA and AndyS
RESOLVED with 0 abstentions and 0 objections
ACTION: KendallC to publish "SPARQL Protocol for RDF" pending approval from TomA and AndyS
5. SPARQL SOURCE Issue
c.f.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0426.html
ACTION: DaveB update the dawg test repository to record or amend tests
to correspond to the
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0241.html
CONTINUED
ACTION: TomA write email to list about how their customers are using
named graphs
DONE
ACTION: JanneS propose text for hard failure in the protocol draft
CONTINUED
ACTION: DanC suggest formal definitions for SOURCE
CONTINUED
6. SPARQL update, issues
ACTION: PatH to review editors working draft of rq23
DONE
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0419.html
ACTION: AlbertoR owns issue 'DESCRIBE'
DONE
ACTION: DanC owner of issue 'yes or no questions' (pending protocol
doc)
CONTINUED
ACTION: SteveH own (i.e. propose resolution to) disjunction issue
CONTINUED
ACTION: EricP migrate some Algae UnionDisjunciton test cases
[discussion of whether to publish early without PatH's feedback or
later with the feedback]
Mood in favor of publishing later with the feedback.
ADJOURNED at 16:03:29Z
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